Parking Brake Error
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I have an intermittent Parking Break Error. It started in the cold weather. Since then I had the error twice when the weather warmed up. First happened while on the HH Parkway in NYC, various errors starting popping up as well while driving and these would come on and then go off as I was driving. The temp gage would go off ( needle would bury itself) then come back on but the temp was fine. I just had it appear again a month later during start up, I shut the car off and re-started and the error message didn't come on but the check engine light did.
Any thoughts.
Thanks
jphurlman
Any thoughts.
Thanks
jphurlman
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jphurlman (05-06-2015)
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I went out this morning and none of them appeared only the Check Engine light was on.
Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
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OK, but you need to go to a Jaguar shop and get the stored fault codes read and then interpreted ideally by somebody experienced in these cars and codes. A good independent is normally best as they tend to deal with cars no longer in production. Nothing wrong with the main agent if their mechanics are good, of course.
If it is saying Brake Fluid Low, have you had a look at the reservoir itself to see the actual level ?
If it is saying Brake Fluid Low, have you had a look at the reservoir itself to see the actual level ?
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OK, but you need to go to a Jaguar shop and get the stored fault codes read and then interpreted ideally by somebody experienced in these cars and codes. A good independent is normally best as they tend to deal with cars no longer in production. Nothing wrong with the main agent if their mechanics are good, of course.
If it is saying Brake Fluid Low, have you had a look at the reservoir itself to see the actual level ?
If it is saying Brake Fluid Low, have you had a look at the reservoir itself to see the actual level ?
P1000, P1111, P1638, P1699
Break fluid halfway between Min & Max. They like it on Max.
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Jim,
The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf
I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.
Here are the definitions of your DTCs:
P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.
P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.
P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure
P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure
ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.
A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.
The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.
It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.
I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.
Please keep us informed.
Cheers,
Don
Last edited by Don B; 05-06-2015 at 03:51 PM.
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Jim,
The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf
I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.
Here are the definitions of your DTCs:
P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.
P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.
P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure
P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure
ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.
A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.
The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.
It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.
I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.
Please keep us informed.
Cheers,
Don
The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf
I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.
Here are the definitions of your DTCs:
P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.
P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.
P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure
P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure
ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.
A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.
The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.
It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.
I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.
Please keep us informed.
Cheers,
Don
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Jim,
The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf
I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.
Here are the definitions of your DTCs:
P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.
P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.
P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure
P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure
ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.
A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.
The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.
It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.
I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.
Please keep us informed.
Cheers,
Don
The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf
I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.
Here are the definitions of your DTCs:
P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.
P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.
P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure
P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure
ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.
A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.
The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.
It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.
I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.
Please keep us informed.
Cheers,
Don
Don my battery date code is 13-03. OMG Getting a new battery today will use the manual to disconnect and connect. Wish me luck. I will do the ECM idle learning procedure as well and the park break reset. Press brake, On-off-On.
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I am tempted to have the throttle body changed as that has worked for others.
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Hi Jim,
Buying parts you're not certain that you need can get very expensive and frustrating if the problem is not resolved.
Personally, I would clear the codes and see if any of them reappear. If any do, check the Workshop Manual for diagnostic procedures to track down the cause of each code.
Cheers,
Don
Last edited by Don B; 05-26-2015 at 11:09 PM.
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Battery tests first but also check this TSB out
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...%20Cluster.pdf
Cheers
34by151
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...%20Cluster.pdf
Cheers
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The codes went away and left just the check engine light, went to work and no lights, no yellow or red either. Came out of work and the check engine still there. Went to work today with check engine light on, came out to leave and no check engine light, clean all the way home. I didn't turn anything on like radio or AC. If same tomorrow I will wait another day before turning accessories on. I am not a mechanic and certainly not one with electrical experience so the help and pin connection information is something I will forward to my independent garage, international facility with Benz, Ferrari's etc and owner drives a X350 series Jag.
If the check engine light went out does that mean all of the codes have reset and I don't have to wait a couple of days not using accessories? I told you I was no mechanic.
If the check engine light went out does that mean all of the codes have reset and I don't have to wait a couple of days not using accessories? I told you I was no mechanic.
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