Please school me on buying an XJ!
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2004 XJ8 purchased new. Now have 66,000 miles, front brakes at 26,000 miles, Suspension air compressor at 40,000, A/C control module at 47,000 and tires about every 25K. The only other issue was a leak in the transmission pan. I now drive it daily and am looking to keep driving it for another 4 or 5 years. I have had it serviced every 5,000 miles since new.
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I doubt your extended warranty covers the air suspension.... post the language from your contract. All 3rd party warranties are exclusionary bumper to bumper warranties. None of them cover air suspensions...they couldn't stay in business if they did. The engines and trans on the models you are looking at are bullet proof. No need for extended warranty.
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I doubt your extended warranty covers the air suspension.... post the language from your contract. All 3rd party warranties are exclusionary bumper to bumper warranties. None of them cover air suspensions...they couldn't stay in business if they did. The engines and trans on the models you are looking at are bullet proof. No need for extended warranty.
Have fun reading.
The warranty provides coverage for anything that breaks or is no longer operating as new due to defect or normal wear and tear, even seals & gaskets.
Examples Of Items covered:
Engine and related parts not limited to turbo and supercharger, exhaust manifold, mounts
Transmission and related parts not limited to mounts, cooler lines, cables, torque converter, vacuum modulator
Drive Axle 2 & 4-wheel and related parts not limited to drive shaft, washers, CV joints (except when boot is torn or missing), bearings
Cooling System not limited to motors, pumps, fans, radiators
Electrical System not limited to alternator, starter, battery, voltage regulator, all motors (seats, doors, wipers), switches, solenoids, actuators, computers, ignition components
Hybrid Electrical except batteries
Air Conditioning if factory installed
Front suspension not limited to struts, bushings, arms, joints, knuckles, bearings
Steering not limited to pump, rack & pinion, steering gear
Fuel Delivery not limited to tank, pump, lines injectors gas or diesel
24/7 roadside assistance flat tire, towing, fuel & fluid, battery, lock out
Any Necessary Repair required as the result of a breakdown except items listed in Items not covered
Items not covered:
Any electronic equipment (except factory installed) including, alarm systems, power inverters, telephones, clocks, wiring, navigation equipment & entertainment systems. (aftermarket)
Any auto body parts panels, paint, glass, trim (decorative), interior (fabrics) or safety restraint systems.
Any tune-up item, including spark plugs and wires, distributor cap and carburetor.
Any normal maintenance item not related to a covered repair, including tires, wheels, wheels covers, alignments, brake shoes or pads, rotors or drums, shock absorbers, belts, hoses, filters, lubricants, fluids, freon, exhaust, clutch, CV boots and thermostats.
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Items not covered:
Any electronic equipment (except factory installed) including, alarm systems, power inverters, telephones, clocks, wiring, navigation equipment & entertainment systems. (aftermarket)
Any auto body parts panels, paint, glass, trim (decorative), interior (fabrics) or safety restraint systems.
Any tune-up item, including spark plugs and wires, distributor cap and carburetor.
Any normal maintenance item not related to a covered repair, including tires, wheels, wheels covers, alignments, brake shoes or pads, rotors or drums, shock absorbers, belts, hoses, filters, lubricants, fluids, freon, exhaust, clutch, CV boots and thermostats.
Items not covered:
Any electronic equipment (except factory installed) including, alarm systems, power inverters, telephones, clocks, wiring, navigation equipment & entertainment systems. (aftermarket)
Any auto body parts panels, paint, glass, trim (decorative), interior (fabrics) or safety restraint systems.
Any tune-up item, including spark plugs and wires, distributor cap and carburetor.
Any normal maintenance item not related to a covered repair, including tires, wheels, wheels covers, alignments, brake shoes or pads, rotors or drums, shock absorbers, belts, hoses, filters, lubricants, fluids, freon, exhaust, clutch, CV boots and thermostats.
I even had a service manager tell me he'll try to submit a claim for an "air spring" and he said he got away with it and the warranty compnay paid, however i have no reason to believe him. Any claim that is four digits will have an inspector all over it like cheap suit. They'll scrutinize and argue with the service managers until someone bends... and it it won't be the dealership because they don't bend otherwise they go out of business. So it is the consumer that bends and pays the charges that are above ordinary and reasonable shop rates in the cases where a warranty does cover the claim. Consider an engine failure; perhaps because a pack rat nibbling on the lower radiator hose causing aneurysm ( for lack of a better term) before you left for a long trip through the desert. The radiator hose lets go at high noon in scorching three digit temperatures and before you bring the jag to stop, the motor suffers catastrophic engine failure.... guess what? The warranty company will not cover it because you did not exercise due diligence by stopping immediately to prevent the engine failure.... CLAIM DENIED!
These companies are in the business to turn a profit and they will do everything at their disposal to delay, deny and dance with you until you are fed up and your jag is held hostage and the dealership complains about how long the negotiation is taking until which which point you are convinced to pay the difference in what the warranty will not cover.
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There is in black and white... shock absorbers are excluded... Keep in mind the folks that sell the warranties are different than the folks who administer the contract. The air springs are nothing more than an expensive shock absorber. I think there is only one extended warranty company that administers the polices they sell and that is CARCHEX...but a 100k mile - zero deductible warranty for 06 XJ8 with 39K was $7000.
I even had a service manager tell me he'll try to submit a claim for an "air spring" and he said he got away with it and the warranty compnay paid, however i have no reason to believe him. Any claim that is four digits will have an inspector all over it like cheap suit. They'll scrutinize and argue with the service managers until someone bends... and it it won't be the dealership because they don't bend otherwise they go out of business. So it is the consumer that bends and pays the charges that are above ordinary and reasonable shop rates in the cases where a warranty does cover the claim. Consider an engine failure; perhaps because a pack rat nibbling on the lower radiator hose causing aneurysm ( for lack of a better term) before you left for a long trip through the desert. The radiator hose lets go at high noon in scorching three digit temperatures and before you bring the jag to stop, the motor suffers catastrophic engine failure.... guess what? The warranty company will not cover it because you did not exercise due diligence by stopping immediately to prevent the engine failure.... CLAIM DENIED!
These companies are in the business to turn a profit and they will do everything at their disposal to delay, deny and dance with you until you are fed up and your jag is held hostage and the dealership complains about how long the negotiation is taking until which which point you are convinced to pay the difference in what the warranty will not cover.
I even had a service manager tell me he'll try to submit a claim for an "air spring" and he said he got away with it and the warranty compnay paid, however i have no reason to believe him. Any claim that is four digits will have an inspector all over it like cheap suit. They'll scrutinize and argue with the service managers until someone bends... and it it won't be the dealership because they don't bend otherwise they go out of business. So it is the consumer that bends and pays the charges that are above ordinary and reasonable shop rates in the cases where a warranty does cover the claim. Consider an engine failure; perhaps because a pack rat nibbling on the lower radiator hose causing aneurysm ( for lack of a better term) before you left for a long trip through the desert. The radiator hose lets go at high noon in scorching three digit temperatures and before you bring the jag to stop, the motor suffers catastrophic engine failure.... guess what? The warranty company will not cover it because you did not exercise due diligence by stopping immediately to prevent the engine failure.... CLAIM DENIED!
These companies are in the business to turn a profit and they will do everything at their disposal to delay, deny and dance with you until you are fed up and your jag is held hostage and the dealership complains about how long the negotiation is taking until which which point you are convinced to pay the difference in what the warranty will not cover.
How can you see it any other way?
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I understand what you are saying, however it was the claims agent who said air suspension WAS covered as long as it was factory installed. The warranty also says in writing that struts are covered. Again, the claims agent said that wearable disposable shock absorbers designed to be thrown away were not covered.
How can you see it any other way?
How can you see it any other way?
Because the exclusionary statement specifically calls out shock absorbers and I don't trust what the sales people say. Nevertheless, when you start seeing symptoms of a leaky air spring, bring it into the dealer, have them contact your warranty company and see what transpires. Do you have a $100 deductible with your Chrysler warranty?
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Because the exclusionary statement specifically calls out shock absorbers and I don't trust what the sales people say. Nevertheless, when you start seeing symptoms of a leaky air spring, bring it into the dealer, have them contact your warranty company and see what transpires. Do you have a $100 deductible with your Chrysler warranty?
It is not a Chrysler warranty, it is from AAGI. The dealer even told me to NOT to get the Jaguar warranty as it would NOT cover the air springs. Two of the nice things about the warranty I got is it is refundable if I never use it and it pays the hourly shop rate. I have had only one other extended warranty and they would only pay $74 per hour, I had to pay the difference, however they never had any issue paying for the repairs on that Jag.
Yes the deductible is $100, they would not offer me one with $0.
The dealership service department is no-longer the easiest place to work with anymore. It seems they are only interested in factory warranty service because they have to and customer paid out of warranty repairs and maintenance. It used to be the service writer would word claims in such a way that all repairs would get approved, but now they do not want to do that any more. Perhaps they got caught by an inspector.
Fortunately the only issue with the suspension was while the car was under the factory warranty, I have yet to put in any claims.
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My own opinion is you need to really research who sells the aftermarket warranty. The one I had on my '01 Impala was from a company called Universal Underwriters, not sure if they're still around or not. It was a powertrain only warranty that cost me around 800 bucks when I bought the car with 36K miles on it. In the three years I had the car I had an intake manifold gasket replaced that was around 600 dollars with labor and I had a transmission replaced, that was over 3 grand. GM dealership called in the claims and I never had any problems. In fact with the transmission they even sprang for a new GM one instead of a Jasper or other aftermarket rebuild. Service manager convinced them it would save them money in the long run since the factory tranny had a much longer warranty period!
However I've also heard many nightmare stories about extended warranties as well, as I'm sure many of us have. I guess you just need to be careful who you're dealing with, and I think also the relationship and reputation of the repair shop submitting the estimate might matter as well.
However I've also heard many nightmare stories about extended warranties as well, as I'm sure many of us have. I guess you just need to be careful who you're dealing with, and I think also the relationship and reputation of the repair shop submitting the estimate might matter as well.
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I've been a BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche owner for over 30 years. I would love to get a 2005+ XJ8 or Vanden Plas. Drove several new ones as well as used ones. What's holding me back? Denver has at least a dozen great independent German car specialist mechanics and only one independent Jag shop and way across town from where I live. I stay away from dealers no matter what make. This has been a deal breaker for me. If you have a great independent Jag specialist, I say go for it.
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