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Old 04-25-2024, 04:34 AM
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I have a 2005 XJR. I understand the front grill is made up of parts and can be dismantled?

I mean specifically those parts that make it either a XJ8 or XJR grill?

I ask because mine is body colour, and I would like to get a full chromed grill. These are impossible to find in South Africa.
So I'm wondering - If I do manage to find a chrome front grill locally, but it is for the XJ8, would I be able to transplant my XJR wire mesh into that chrome "outer frame" part coming off an XJ8?
Or does the XJ8 grill have the horizontal lines molded into the outer frame as one piece?

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Old 04-25-2024, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon_X350
....Or does the XJ8 grill have the horizontal lines molded into the outer frame as one piece?
My XJ8-L is "all of a piece" w/r the grille bars & bezel - just took a maglite out and double-checked. Adhesives might be in play, but there's no discernable seam.

On-edit.. it doesn't quite match those in the link Thomas just posted, either, though side notes do say "except..." and may have overlooked a few, given "whatever" was shipped, OEM. has long been out of new, primary supplier assembly line use.

IF.. importing of "parts bin" swap is impractical, but you have a "trophy" industry service outfit somewhere in your country, they can remove the paint, put a gold, silver, brass, bronze, copper, or chrome-ish - even rainbow irridescent - metallic plating onto the plastic. Much the same process as they used for plating of leather and fabric for preserving "baby shoes".

ISTR it starts with "electroless carbon" to support a flash of "electroless Copper", after which they can do most anything as can BE electroplated. Good grade of "clearcoat" does the rest.
 

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I think that the following from the Jaguar parts catalogue should answer your question:



If you need more details, here's the link:
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/

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Thanks!

I've seen this diagram somewhere.
I guess the question is whether #1 Radiator Grille Surround is the same part for both the XJ8 & XJR X350.
And I guess a closer inspection of #2 and #3 reveals that yes it seems that way!

I have contacted a number of "re-chrome" and "plastic chrome" places around here, but none of them sounded keen to try this, to the point where I don't want to let them try either.

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Old 04-25-2024, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon_X350
I have contacted a number of "re-chrome" and "plastic chrome" places around here, but none of them sounded keen to try this, to the point where I don't want to let them try either.
LOL! Yazz . gets patchy-ugly if they screw it up and part of it peels.

Even so.. it is mostly a "cosmetic" part so long as something strong-enough keeps birds and such from puncturing the finned bits if impacted at high speed. That bit doesn't even have to 'show'.

"Back in the day" when the young and raging-hormone-fueled were trying to impress the girls with "Customized" used cars, we made grilles out of.... BBQ grilles, screen doors, catwalk grillage, refrigerator ice-cube tray dividers, bathroom towel-racks, failed food store double-door handles, as "floating" bars, anything that we could find that was different from "factory", even if seriously butt-ugly!

Truth told, most of us weren't much to look at ourselves, could have had better success with a different haircut and less flat-top wax or Brylkreem.

THAT part having worsened with age, I'm leavin' the XJ8-L ''as issued" for lack of any better camouflage!.

 

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Leon,
I have had both an all-chrome XJR and a standard body-coloured XJ8 grill on my car and they have been identical?



 

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Leon,
I have had both an all-chrome XJR and a standard body-coloured XJ8 grill on my car and they have been identical?
For YOUR one's colour, I like the body-match better.

For my "mica slate metallic" AKA "grey", it would look older, cheaper, even drab. VERY!
 
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Default "Lower" Front Grill for 2008 XJ8L

How about the "lower front grill setup" below the license plate. Where can one find that setup for a 2008 XJ8L?

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Originally Posted by Thermite
For YOUR one's colour, I like the body-match better.

For my "mica slate metallic" AKA "grey", it would look older, cheaper, even drab. VERY!
I might agree! That red is stunning and shiny all on its own!

Did you do a Youtube video on how to change the grill? (I saw a how-to video for exactly that, with exactly that colour car!)

My car however is "drab grey" - I dislike it so much I might change it to Jaguar Racing Green and be done with it.
 
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Originally Posted by btweatherford
How about the "lower front grill setup" below the license plate. Where can one find that setup for a 2008 XJ8L?

Brant Weatherford
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They seem to mix opinions.
I bought mine on Ebay; I will try to find a link.
 
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Originally Posted by Leon_X350
I might agree! That red is stunning and shiny all on its own! Did you do a Youtube video on how to change the grill?.
No, I did not do a video; to be honest with you, it is such a simple thing to do (see attachment)? Really easy. The only thing to be careful about if you also go for the lower mesh griill is that it has to be removable should you ever need to access the tow-ring thread-in point?
When I was a 'youngster', that was the colour that Jaguars were!
Radience Red (1975) is fantastic. Sometimes it looks deep maroon and sometimes (in direct sunlight) it becomes almost magenta. It is rarely the same colour twice!!
 
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Originally Posted by EsRay
When I was a 'youngster', that was the colour that Jaguars were!
Radience Red (1975) is fantastic. Sometimes it looks deep maroon and sometimes (in direct sunlight) it becomes almost magenta. It is rarely the same colour twice!!
Lovely it is. There's one around the area, here.

The metallic is new, but the lovely and lively wine or burgundy reds that predated metallic paints - on my late Cousin's SS-100 and on into XK120 - 150 era was already a Jaguar owner's best shot.

"British Racing Green" belonged on Oliver tractors or office-desk "Printypes".
Good colour for hiding-out in a watermelon patch, if the need arose. That dull.
 
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Originally Posted by EsRay
No, I did not do a video; to be honest with you, it is such a simple thing to do (see attachment)? Really easy. The only thing to be careful about if you also go for the lower mesh griill is that it has to be removable should you ever need to access the tow-ring thread-in point?
When I was a 'youngster', that was the colour that Jaguars were!
Radience Red (1975) is fantastic. Sometimes it looks deep maroon and sometimes (in direct sunlight) it becomes almost magenta. It is rarely the same colour twice!!
Here is the video, you can understand my assumption! Same colour, doing the same conversion!
 
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Originally Posted by Leon_X350
Here is the video, you can understand my assumption! Same colour, doing the same conversion!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n4ndL2PxpM&t=7s
Hello Leon,
No, that was not me; I am somewhat older than that guy!
But I am sure you will agree that the task is a very simple one!
I also bought a mesh lower grill on Ebay. You just have to ensure that you can remove it easily, in case (in an emergency) you need to get to the threaded hole for the towing ring sited behind it?
 
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You just have to ensure that you can remove it easily, in case (in an emergency) you need to get to the threaded hole for the towing ring sited behind it?
Bespoke "recovery vehicles" don't need that. They'll wheel-lift, dolly, or flatbed it.

Unless you are planning to tow it with livestock?

Slave labour. Camels. Horses. Donkeys. Oxen. Sled dogs. Gaggle of Geese.

Maybe even Crows in harness?
Works for a Toy-oder Crow-roller.
 

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Originally Posted by Thermite
Bespoke "recovery vehicles" don't need that. They'll wheel-lift, dolly, or flatbed it.
Unless you are planning to tow it with livestock?
Slave labour. Camels. Horses. Donkeys. Oxen. Sled dogs. Gaggle of Geese.
Maybe even Crows in harness?
Works for a Toy-oder Crow-roller.
I live in Dubai, so it would probably be Slave Labour?
 
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Isn't the threaded tow connector behind the lower right hand side light access panel ?
 
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Isn't the threaded tow connector behind the lower right hand side light access panel ?
Yes it is, and my lower mesh grill covers it.
 
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I live in Dubai, so it would probably be Slave Labour?
Worse. You are it.

Portable 12VDC winches exist but... not generally amusing as to greater risk than benefit.

I've gotten easier use if out of one of these and a few bits of hookery & an aircraft tie-down chain so it needeth not permanent attachment. No battery power required:

Amazon Amazon

Breaking strength is around 10,000 lbs, avoir. Friendlier warning than steel cable as well.
 

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