Rear window sun shade issues
#21
My other 2004 xjr had it and this one has the shade because you can see it behind the headrests. I reached out to the local Jaguar dealership yesterday and they said, "it happens. Sometimes the shades were installed with no button to operate them. We have seen it before." They also said that I could simply buy the button, however, it is connected to the other buttons on a circuit board in the overhead console. I then asked if he could order it for me at which time I found out that it would be $1500. So it looks like I'll get my windows tinted for $100 and deal with a shade that I cannot open.
#22
#23
The tips of the arms that lift the shade in my 2004 XJR are broken off. Some believe that the entire shade assembly needs to be purchased although here is a TSB that shows the arms separate.
2013-03-11_0750 - donzidoug's library
Although I have yet to decide whether to attempt this fix or hire it out here is the info for future reference.
2013-03-11_0750 - donzidoug's library
Although I have yet to decide whether to attempt this fix or hire it out here is the info for future reference.
#25
yep...parts are available from Jaguar...if I recall correctly the one place I checked was 84. for an arm and 260. or so for the motor assembly.
Although I can't be sure it looks as though something may happen to the motor assembly that causes the arms to push out too far resulting in broken tips. This is only a guess based on how far the arms appear to travel now compared to the width of the actual shade.
Again just guessing and having called each shop here in Phoenix I have yet to find anyone who has actually traveled this road. Only one place, Autohaus in Tempe seemed interested in getting to the bottom of this and seriously attempting an estimate and an appointment. Very courteous and professional people there at Autohaus.
Although I can't be sure it looks as though something may happen to the motor assembly that causes the arms to push out too far resulting in broken tips. This is only a guess based on how far the arms appear to travel now compared to the width of the actual shade.
Again just guessing and having called each shop here in Phoenix I have yet to find anyone who has actually traveled this road. Only one place, Autohaus in Tempe seemed interested in getting to the bottom of this and seriously attempting an estimate and an appointment. Very courteous and professional people there at Autohaus.
#26
3M makes a product in a spray can called "Dry Silicone". Obtain some of that and get the sunshade extended. Spray the two corners of the cavity it retracts into. Its where the two little wheels that touch the glass slide in. That will keep the shade working pretty well.
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#27
After calling Jaguar, they stated that almost all cars had the shade but not all had the button. They could send me a new overhead console for a mere $1400. Uh, no thank you. I finally found an overhead console with the Sun Shade Button on FleaBay for only $50. I installed it and after tugging a little on the shade itself, it arose like Christ on the third day. I'm so pleased that all it was missing was the correct overhead console.
#28
Thanks for the tip. My rear shade was stuck when I bought my car a couple of weeks ago. I did as you suggested and it works now.
#29
#30
I need to know who will sell the arm kit
So my sunshade is completely busted - It was up and functional when I test drove the 2006 XJ8L that I ended up buying. Between my test drive and ownership some %$#@*&^ went and broke it both sliding pieces in the frame (at the tips of the arms) are broken as is one roller that is to prevent hitting and the friction of hitting the rear window. The PDF poste in the beginning of this thread has a part number listed for the ARM kit, but I cannot fond that kit anywhere on the web. Does anyone know of a source?
C2C 40234 ...............Arm mechanism kit (XJ)
This is what I need ^ Cannot find it ANYWHERE!!!
Anyone?
C2C 40234 ...............Arm mechanism kit (XJ)
This is what I need ^ Cannot find it ANYWHERE!!!
Anyone?
#32
I know thi9s is way after the fact but the information may be pertinent and current. There is a thread on this forum that discusses rear sunshades that Jaguar installed with no corresponding button in the overhead console. I read it with some amusement when more than one person chimed in, and one guy got a new overhead with a button from a junk yard and guess what: a working sunshade is what. What a colossal screw up for an automobile manufacturer, but I guess it's no weirder than some other things that go wrong.
All I am saying is, if anyone reading the thread has what appears to be a rear sunshade on the parcel shelf (why they call it that, and then emphatically warn you not too EVER put ANYTHING on the shelf less you create a decapitating, scalping or face maiming projectile. I would strongly advise confirming that a sunshade does indeed exist, and then start perusing eBay for consoles with the button.
-John Blair
#33
I had an inoperative sun shade for months now. I really did not care for it anyway since I had other issues with the car to deal with. I stumbled upon this thread and tried what other forum members did - namely, manually pull the shade out about an inch and see if it works.
Voila! It works like a charm now. Up and down w/o problems. I still need to lubricate the two points mentioned in this thread and should be done. This is the cheapest ($0) and easiest fix thus far for me...
Voila! It works like a charm now. Up and down w/o problems. I still need to lubricate the two points mentioned in this thread and should be done. This is the cheapest ($0) and easiest fix thus far for me...
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#34
Resolved!
So the tips where the arms slide were broken off on my Sunshade. Fortunately I found a complete package shelf on ebay for $70 and replaced the arms on mine with the ones from the shelf I bought. Fairly big job, including pulling rear seat bottom and back, removal and disassembly of the package shelf and sunshade, but not only do I have a fully functional sunshade, but I have a spare set of motors and parts. Still would have loved to find a source for the arms- part number is listed on the pdf attached earlier in this thread. In any case I am thrilled to have the shade functioning. Its a very cool option and unique to Jaguar and Mercedes. Anyone know of a company making custom side shades for rear door windows? Would love have a set but can't see cannibalizing a Super V8 to get them!
#35
You can get fitted shades for the rear side windows, but they are clip-in ones and only for SWB models. I have a set for my XJR, they are very nice but not cheap!
jaguar interior styling | jaguar shades | jaguar privacy blinds
There was also a factory option for roll-up shades on the rear side windows for both SWB and LWB cars, but I don't think too many had them fitted. Although a friends base-model XJ in Germany had them, without the electric rear blind, which was a bit odd...
I looked into retrofitting them to mine but the door cards are different to allow for the blind, which made it very expensive if you bought the spare parts new, and difficult to find from wrecked cars...
jaguar interior styling | jaguar shades | jaguar privacy blinds
There was also a factory option for roll-up shades on the rear side windows for both SWB and LWB cars, but I don't think too many had them fitted. Although a friends base-model XJ in Germany had them, without the electric rear blind, which was a bit odd...
I looked into retrofitting them to mine but the door cards are different to allow for the blind, which made it very expensive if you bought the spare parts new, and difficult to find from wrecked cars...
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#36
You can get fitted shades for the rear side windows, but they are clip-in ones and only for SWB models. I have a set for my XJR, they are very nice but not cheap!
jaguar interior styling | jaguar shades | jaguar privacy blinds
There was also a factory option for roll-up shades on the rear side windows for both SWB and LWB cars, but I don't think too many had them fitted. Although a friends base-model XJ in Germany had them, without the electric rear blind, which was a bit odd...
I looked into retrofitting them to mine but the door cards are different to allow for the blind, which made it very expensive if you bought the spare parts new, and difficult to find from wrecked cars...
jaguar interior styling | jaguar shades | jaguar privacy blinds
There was also a factory option for roll-up shades on the rear side windows for both SWB and LWB cars, but I don't think too many had them fitted. Although a friends base-model XJ in Germany had them, without the electric rear blind, which was a bit odd...
I looked into retrofitting them to mine but the door cards are different to allow for the blind, which made it very expensive if you bought the spare parts new, and difficult to find from wrecked cars...
I spent days trying to find the shades for a LWB but no joy. You would think they would make some for the LWB cars as it seems most of the XJs in my area are LWB cars. I got a little envious of my friend's Super V8 that had the side shades, adjustable rear seat and entertainment system. However, I would only really find the side shades useful. I've never sat in the rear seat while the car was underway.
#37
rear shade not working properly
i yanked and pulled and shook it side to side and almost tore it out and after hitting the button several times it started working and worked great! i lubed it and then worked it several more times and it worked perfectly.. today i went out and it was stuck again! and i had to pull and shake etc again and it started working perfectly again. so i left it up. there is nothing broken that i can see, there is no noise at all it just pops up and goes down with out a sound.. just like you would think it should.. so does anyone have any ideas as to what could be the issue?? why does it work for several hours and if left down over night jam again?? and it was lubed and there was no dirt etc anywhere that i could see. I wait to hear your excellent answers.
#38
Thanks XJRGuy, my latest baby had the shade stuck in the fully open position. Only one side would try to close while the other side was jammed. After a little "Persuasive Love Tugging" It now works fully as it should. I'll have to let it rise once every few days just because i can.
Now.... If I can fix the broken Ashtray in the rear door (which I'd never use) The weak washer jet pressure on the Wiper blades (already checked the hoses), The slight sound drop in the stereo volume every now and then, the none operative ASL (which I'll never use) ANNnnd the Global Locking and Unlocking of the windows and sunroof(which i might use...) I'll be a purring happy camper... lol
Now.... If I can fix the broken Ashtray in the rear door (which I'd never use) The weak washer jet pressure on the Wiper blades (already checked the hoses), The slight sound drop in the stereo volume every now and then, the none operative ASL (which I'll never use) ANNnnd the Global Locking and Unlocking of the windows and sunroof(which i might use...) I'll be a purring happy camper... lol
#39
By the way: at first I also guessed that a motor is broken or anything else does not work anymore but when I also tried it with carefull brutal force, at once the back shade worked again: I lifted it with a plastic spoon a little bit left, a little bit right and than with power in the middle as soon as there has been one inch of place to see.
Thanks
Andreas
Thanks
Andreas
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