Point taken about the hub unit being designed to be replaced easily, but even so, for a wheel bearing to fail at such low mileage is, in my opinion unacceptable!
For example. My previous car, a Volvo S60T5 which also had ball roller front wheel bearings and was front wheel drive, still had its original bearings fitted when I sold it, with 210000 miles on it. I have also owned and dealt with many cars in the past, that with standard suspension and wheels (or at least wheel size), have never had front wheel bearing issues.
I am guessing that this is either a design fault (front suspension geometry and or design), or inferior quality components?
I guess I'll find out when it's done another 65000 miles?

 

Hi Bill,

I just visited the Detroit Axle website and looked up front hubs for both an '04 XJR and XJ8 and the same part number comes up, 513169, but at $999.00 each. How do you get the $105/pair price?

https://detroitaxle.com/?s=Part%20Fi...&vm=365&pt=410

Cheers,

Don

 

The one you just posted is deeper set like the Beck-Arnley piece.

 

I found this on ebay:

New Front Driver or Passenger Complete Wheel Hub and Bearing Assembly 2WD w ABS | eBay

 

It looks like I'll be stuck with the OEM part after all. That one won't fit the VDP either.

Here's the factory part. The back where the ABS sensor screws in is about 1/4 inch shorter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Jaguar-V...4fb90e&vxp=mtr

 

Same thing for much less
New Wheel Hub and Bearing Assembly Front Pair 2 | eBay

The price difference lets you rebuild all the bushings and links!!!

Cheers
34by151

 

That won't fit a VDP.

 

Dunno, Don - but there is enough at stake for enough folks I've gone and dug out the details.

First, I Just now got the same price on their website as you reported.

But that "$999" is a not uncommon Database Admin SNAFU-filler, seldom a 'real' price. They may have been updating their DB. They may be dropping that item.

But wait one ... they may sell it only / more attractively... through Ebay...

Follow the evidence:

Here's my order confirmation from Detroit Axle of 11 June 2014:
================================================== =
This shipment includes the following items:

*Item #* *Description* *Qty*
513169 x2

Paiir of 2 NEW Front Driver and Passenger Wheel Hub and Bearing RWD w/ ABS

Qty 1
================================================== ==
Same P/N you cite, and they were an exact match and fit. Low-mileage car, had the Carfax, etc, everything indicated the ones I replaced were the ones it left the factory with.

Here's the price I paid, per PayPal's email. Note 'Pair'
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++:
Description: Pair of 2 NEW Front Driver and Passenger Wheel Hub and Bearing RWD w/ ABS , Item# 171239953312
Qty: 1
Unit Price: $102.99 USD
Total: $102.99 USD

Shipping and handling: $0.00 USD
Insurance - not offered : ----

Total: $102.99 USD
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Meanwhile, back on the 'net, go over to rockauto.com.

I selected:

Jaguar
2005
XJ8
4.2
Brake/wheel Hub
Wheel bearing & hub Assembly

...to find this days' prices as::

BECK/ARNLEY 0516248 @ US$ 100.89 EACH

TIMKEN HA590224 @ US$ 114.79 EACH

FAHREN FAR0093 @ US$ 151.89 EACH

I am a big fan of Rockauto.

Best website in the biz for finding parts fast, good prices, fast shipping, no BS, no unwanted pop-ups or other distractions.

But I am also cheap, so they get 90%+ of my orders, but not quite 100%.

When D-A showed up with a PAIR price less than other folk charged for ONE?
And also had free shipping?

I admit taking quite a while researching to make sure it was 'for real'. Couple of WEEKS, actually. Even knowing whom Detroit Axle IS from a prior life, (Detroit Locker legend) I did my 'usual' deep-dive to make sure they were the same company under the covers.

Then I ordered.

And - per my Ebay purchase history - I ordered via Detroit Axle's eBay store, not their public-facing website.

Same item. Different channel to market.

Detroit, as in Michigan? May be as simple as one side of the house being Unionized, the other not.

Do Your Own Due Diligence on ANY serious, as in bet-lives-on-it, parts of a motorcar.

But that does not limit one to dealerships.

Ever meet a dealer that made his own parts? Including roller-bearings AND ABS sensors?

Not a common situation, that.

 

I just got the other version Beck Arnley hub in, haven't installed it yet though. It's much lower profile for the rear sensor design and looks identical to the OEM piece to me other than the black coated studs. It's part number 051-6248.

 

Just to confirm this part was an exact fit for my VDP. I got it installed yesterday.

 

Thanks for that info, Bill.

Here are current eBay listings, the first for a pair of hubs at USD $99.00 with free shipping (presumably in the Continental U.S.):

Pair of 2 New Front Driver and Passenger Wheel Hub and Bearing 2WD w ABS | eBay


And a single hub at $50.00 with free shipping:

New Front Driver or Passenger Complete Wheel Hub and Bearing Assembly 2WD w ABS | eBay


Cheers,

Don

 

It says it doesn't fit the VDP, but the backside of that hub looks identical to the Beck-Arnley piece. It should fit just fine.

 

A caveat on 'Fit'... Fair obvious that the critter has to pass through the bore in the upright, flange shape and position of retaining bolts must match, rear not project beyond available space. Try it and see appears to work for all of those. Same again with the wheel studs. They just Fit. or not.

LESS obvious is another figure that has to fit. "Offset"

It is published for the hubs I have researched, but isn't amenable to just eyeballing to see if it is correct once in hand.

The "offset' MUST be correct. Affects clearing and cooling of brakes, suspension angles, and more.

It would have been engineered at factory in conjunction with tire and wheel selection, steering and suspension settings.

Easy for SOME of us to measure. Surface plate, 1-2-3 blocks, height gauge here.
More than one of each.

Not so easy for others.

Check your part numbers and their parameters carefully to insure offset matches along with all the other easier stuff.

 

True. I'm thrown off by the VDP though. I can't seem to figure out why the knuckle design is different than other X350 XJs. I didn't think I'd have to go through so much to get a part that fit even though the first part was guaranteed to fit by multiple places and didn't.

 

The JEPC lists different parts for the supercharged and non supercharged versions of the front hub, It also lists different parts depending on year

4.2 Litre supercharged
From VIN (G03854) - C2C18726
From VIN (G03854) To VIN (G34069) - C2C19586
From VIN (G34070) To VIN (H23616) - C2C22824
From VIN (H23617) - C2C34624

Except 4.2 Litre supercharged
To VIN (G03108) - C2C14611 or C2C18725
From VIN (G03109) To VIN (G34069) - C2C19585
From VIN (G34070) To VIN (H12062) - C2C22824
From VIN (H12063) - C2C22824

As you can see some are shared between all models but most are not
It would be helpful if those that have replaced with aftermarket could list the OEM part number for your model and the aftermarket make/part number

This will prevent issues with the incorrect sizes for others as we all will need to do this in the near future.

I'd like to start but due to me moving all the old car invoices are packed away but I know it was a timkin part. I just had the bearing supplier did a lookup the Jag oem part number (C2C19586) for my XJR and supplied me a pair of hubs.

Can I suggest we all list as
OEM part (ie C2C14611) - Make (ie Timken) , Part Number

The List of OEM part numbers used are
C2C14611
C2C18725
C2C18726
C2C19585
C2C19586
C2C22824

If we can get a definitive aftermarket list going it would help other a lot a reference guide, possibly a how to/sticky as well. Just thinking down the track as this is one item that is going to pop up again and again as the cars begin to age

Cheers
34by151

 

The OEM listed part for my '06 VDP is C2C34624 and the Beck Arnley 051-6248.

 

It looks like my left front is bad too. I'm getting a very small amount of noise out of it compared to the right before replacement. It was hard to pick out where the noise was coming from before the right was placed. Now any sound is only coming from the left front corner. The funny thing is that it is quietest when turning left. I'm picking up another Beck-Arnley 051-6248 to replace it as well.

 

Doing one hub (or one brake) is not the best use of resources. One has to get all the tools together, find a proper space, read up, get in the mood, lift the vehicle, get grubby, clean up afterwards - not to mention TWO parts orders and awaiting parts instead of one., and the possibility they are not as exact a match..etc.

CAN happen that only one is damaged - ball bearings can't take impact shocks as well as tapered rollers - but more often when one goes the other is in the process of it. If not, be happy anyway. You now have a known-to-fit emergency spare with 'some' life left in it.

More better to just do each axle (front or rear) as a set and be done with that end of the vehicle for a while. Better balance that way. Jaguar or any other wheeled critter.

 

Just got the other one installed this morning. The car is now whisper quiet and the steering wheel shimmy is completely gone.

 

I'm about to replace the hub/bearings in my 2004 XJ8. I tend to go with OEM parts when I can for quality reasons, but for these parts I think Jaguar went with generic manufacturers. I am tempted by the price of the Detroit Axle as opposed to Beck Arnley's or Timken, but I've learned the hard way that you generally get what you pay for. Has anyone had long term experience with replacement bearings? What is your experience and who would you recommend?

Any comments would be appreciated.