RPM wavers when cold
#1
RPM wavers when cold
For the first three or four miles each day, when the car is cold the RPM's (and to a lesser extent speed) wavers about 200 rpm, this can be seen in the tach. As I try to maintain a constant speed (usually around 50 mph) the tach will waver up and down about 200 rpms while under load. This doesn't change the cars speed much but I can hear it and feel it. After the car warms it runs beautifully. I have no codes or a CEL. At least on my simple Foxwell code reader. The air filter is new, the plugs and fuel filter I assume are original (32K miles). Morning temps have been around 70*f. What can this be? I could guess a few things but they would just be guesses. So I ask you gentlemen and ladies, where do I go from here? Thank you in advance.
#4
I was told by an ex-Jaguar technician who was around at the time, that this was a clever wheeze to warm the transmission oil quicker by switching the torque converter lock-up on and off quickly until the fluid was warm. I had this syndrome the whole time I had my previous X350 and it was never cured despite a couple of TCM reflashes. In the end I just did a work-round by putting the car into 5 or even 4 for a while.
It just shows that clever wheezes are sometimes not so clever. I suppose this action saved an egg-cup full of petrol every time the car was driven from cold. The cure apparently was to change the torque converter. I queried this with the technician and was told to cure the fault the friction plates were re-profiled on later cars so the action still occurred but was no longer noticeable by the driver. Whether I have been told a load of bullsh*t, I don't know, but what I do know is my current X358 Sovereign doesn't do it.
It just shows that clever wheezes are sometimes not so clever. I suppose this action saved an egg-cup full of petrol every time the car was driven from cold. The cure apparently was to change the torque converter. I queried this with the technician and was told to cure the fault the friction plates were re-profiled on later cars so the action still occurred but was no longer noticeable by the driver. Whether I have been told a load of bullsh*t, I don't know, but what I do know is my current X358 Sovereign doesn't do it.
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paydase (07-02-2017)
#5
I was told by an ex-Jaguar technician who was around at the time, that this was a clever wheeze to warm the transmission oil quicker by switching the torque converter lock-up on and off quickly until the fluid was warm. I had this syndrome the whole time I had my previous X350 and it was never cured despite a couple of TCM reflashes. In the end I just did a work-round by putting the car into 5 or even 4 for a while.
It just shows that clever wheezes are sometimes not so clever. I suppose this action saved an egg-cup full of petrol every time the car was driven from cold. The cure apparently was to change the torque converter. I queried this with the technician and was told to cure the fault the friction plates were re-profiled on later cars so the action still occurred but was no longer noticeable by the driver. Whether I have been told a load of bullsh*t, I don't know, but what I do know is my current X358 Sovereign doesn't do it.
It just shows that clever wheezes are sometimes not so clever. I suppose this action saved an egg-cup full of petrol every time the car was driven from cold. The cure apparently was to change the torque converter. I queried this with the technician and was told to cure the fault the friction plates were re-profiled on later cars so the action still occurred but was no longer noticeable by the driver. Whether I have been told a load of bullsh*t, I don't know, but what I do know is my current X358 Sovereign doesn't do it.
Thanks again.
#6
Interesting Fraser, I hadn't heard the later plates were reprofiled. I wonder how much later they were fixed, if ever. I have never noticed anything of the sort happening on my 04 x350, but I do have it happen in my 06 x100 when at steady speed on certain roads. Interesting enough, I didn't notice the surging prior to me doing a partial transmission fluid flush with Mercon SP, but I noticed it directly after. It could have been happening before and I just wasn't aware. The partial trans flush cured much of the hard downshifting which was occuring, but may have added the surging. No TCM reflash was performed.