I am looking for introductory info re "SDD" such as what it is (of course), what it does, where/how you can get it and for how much, and so on. I am reasonably computer literate, but I don't know anything about this universe of software. Thanks !

 

There is a Technical Training Diagnostic Systems publication.

IDS-SDD-JLR 02/2012 but it is about 48mb as a .pdf (too large to attach file to this forum).

Here is a transition guide IDS to SDD.

Also an interface TSB.

The IDS-SDD-JLR 02/2012 would be the most comprehensive. Look online to see if anyone has it for download??

bob

 

Thanks. Of course, I don't know anything about IDS either. (In my distant past, IDS was a company that sold mutual funds!)

 

I'm in the middle of writing you a reply to your query about headliner removal and a post I made back in 2015 but stumbled on this as well.

SDD stands for Jaguars computer diagnostic program and is shorthand for "System Driven Diagnostics". For starters it requires, in most cases, a laptop with a processor capable of running what's called a "virtual machine" so that you can run a version of Windows XP under either a Windows 7 or later version. It's possible that there is a later version of it available that will run in a native Windows 7 environment but for the earlier versions it needs XP.

I bought version 130.9 from an outfit called British Diagnostics about 3 years ago and up until that laptop died it worked pretty well. Don't think it's a cinch to master as it's a complex program that at best will tell you where the problem most likely lies but you still have to use your skills as a mechanic to figure out the specifics. A good investment to get at the most common problems would be a decent OBD II reader ($30-60 for a decent one) that by international agreement uses all the same codes across all manufacturers for the most common problems. The manufacturers have reserved to themselves a much larger database of all of the various codes attached to problems you may encounter with their ever more complicated computer systems and the communications links to the various control modules.

Another advantage to an OBD II reader is that it will familiarize you with the use of codes as well as lots of real time data on fuel trims (air/fuel ratios), fuel mileage, engine temps, O2 sensors, etc., before jumping in the deep end of SDD codes. For example in SDD there are 51 different codes and 30 pages of troubleshooting steps JUST for the SBS/DSC system on my wife's 2004 XJ8.

SDD software is available all over eBay for as little as $40-50 I guess but without the proper cable it's absolutely useless and a 'real' mongoose cable would most likely run close to $500! You can buy a complete software with a cloned Mongoose cable in the range of $140-175 with shipping but be careful to read the entire description as not all versions work on every year of Jag or with every version of Windows.

Here's just on example but not one I'm endorsing as I've not done any business with them so just use it as a starting point.


Jaguar Land Rover Range Rover Diagnostics kit IDS SDD JLR 131 +138 + Cable | eBay

 

I have a laptop with Win7Pro that can set up a virtual machine, so that part would not be a serious issue. Thanks again.

 

I bought a DELL Latitude C640 with Windows XP Pro on eBay for $37 + $10 shipping.

I have an IDENTICAL C640 so I loaded IDS on BOTH for redundancy.

A dedicated laptop for diagnostics does not have to cost much.

Just a thought.

bob

 

RD Minor, you're talking about a copycat software run on VMWare.

The OEM SDD/ IDS runs straight off the computer. I have both OEM versions of the software on my Dell Latitude. I did add some memory. If you have an old laptop, the software runs on Windows 32 bit.

You can buy the VCM, SDD, IDS (the real deal, not cloned) from Cambo. You can also buy it from Jaguar but that'll run you $2500 or so.

I'm just calling this out because the software you reference is not OEM and the OP should know that. I can't speak to its serviceability but there are multiple threads on the subject here and others can speak of the copycat versions quality.

 

I've been thinking about setting a computer up with the software since I got the car in April. I've read many of the threads on this. I've been waiting to decide what gets me the best chance for success without breaking the bank.

For software what is the opinion of this?

. Jaguar-Land Rover JLR IDS V131.03/VDF + SPA Calibration files FULLY ACTIVATED | eBay

For hardware for some reason the Mangoose hardware does not sit well with me. Not that this one is much better but it's the one I'm currently considering.

DA-VINA 2534 Approved SAE J2534 Pass-Thru Interface for Jaguar and LandRover | eBay

Does anyone on the forums have any experience with either of these?

My laptop is a Windows 8.1 machine. There suppose to a way to set up the vitual machine with Windows 8 (not as easy as Windows 7). I'm also considering buying a used machine with XP SP3 on it. Is there a minimum memory required? Disk size? And are there different types of USB ports?

I'm probably going to wait a month or so before ordering anything so any feedback is welcome. Thanks in advance.

 

That DA-VINA on eBay is also a clone, so you're still looking at something of unknown reliability.

I would steer clear of virtual machines, they tend to be troublesome with SDD in my experience.

 

Boomer,

I used SDD v131.03 with a clone Mongoose for some time. It was loaded on a dedicated laptop with a fresh XP-SP2 install.
But when I read the (costly) issues that may arise when using a clone Mongoose to reprogram a system on our cars (many threads on this forum), and having the opportunity to acquire a genuine used VCM from Cambo, I decided to bite the bullet. Happy customer

 

I also bought the OEM genuine Teradyne VCM, cables and software from Cambo and am too a happy customer.

Everyone has a budget but you're driving around in cars that listed for $70k to $100k. Parts are expensive and so is labor. Buy the right tool for the job. One single use can pay for itself over a trip to the indy or the dealer.

That said, if you're a shade tree mechanic, the icarsoft i930 is probably good enough.

Just please avoid the clones and virtual machines for the sake of your own mental health.

 

New to this computer stuff, us old dogs can learn new tricks, but not as easy as b4. That said, just what is there to buy, where, and how much? My understanding is a laptop computer, the program, and the special cord to connect the car to the laptop. You can now diagnose, (my Launch does that) program, and flash any new parts?If so should be well worth your investment, for peace of mind.Thanks

 

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/p...rfaces-182907/

You'll need the laptop with enough memory. Windows 32bit operating system. Back up power supply (not a battery charger), but something like the Astron RM50.

 

How much is enough memory?

 

I have 3 laptops---2 have 2GB and 1 actually runs with 1GB--each is dedicated 1 with Mongoose clone,1 with a Mongoose Pro clone ---both these have real Jaguar DVD 130.07v113,with Aug2012 data disc and Drew Tech drivers. You need at least 1.00MHz processor and hard drive with about 80GB or more.

One machine is dedicated to my VCM and uses IDS 118.5.

One computer has Windows 7 Starter edition, SP 1---this is the 1GB RAM machine and runs Internet Explorer 8, Adobe Reader 10 and uses Mongoose Pro clone.

The other 2 run Windows XP Pro,SP3 with Internet Explorer 6,Adobe Reader 6, and Java 6.26

 

Just out of curiosity, what does the Mongoose do, exactly?

 

This is old tech. These are the minimums.

• 1.06 GHz Dual Core Processor
• 1GB Ram
• 160GB Hard Drive

 

https://www.google.com/?client=safar...ose+pro+jaguar

 

 

Was going to run VW with a windows 8.1 but I'm now looking at used laptops. Most with XP have 2G of memory, either a CD or DVD reader and 60-80 GB hard drives. Would these work? People have been mentioning Internet Explorer is this needed for SDD?