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Old 03-08-2017, 06:05 PM
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08 XJ with factory Sirius...

Inspired by Cambo's DAB retrofit, I'm inspired to remove the factory Sirius module and replace it with the HD Radio unit. (Still using fantastic VeffBox to stream all else). HD radio would be a nice alternative since the Sirius currently has no subscription.

I have sourced the Sirius unit and all the necessaries (gateway, cabling, etc.) are factory located in the trunk boot.

Have removed the trunk liners and looked at the JEPC. Where is the factory installed location for the Sirius unit? Is it under the rear parcel shelf?

Am thinking that the IBOC could' be installed in the trunk boot if I could source the orange fiber cable and an antenna without removing the factory Sirius, possibly?

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Old 03-08-2017, 09:41 PM
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My 2006 factory unit is located right rear fender well (boot). This is the jaguar fitted unit that had the controller in place of the ashtray. I think the later units had the controls built into the head unit. Veff or Evan would know. Evan has the later year car. I canned the Sirius unit and only use my VeffBox when the Sirius unit started acting up. Sirius had too many short loop tracks for the money and not the greatest sound. Are you planning on installing Cambo's DAB retro fit or Sirius? I don't think the Sirius system is worth it. Streaming with a VeffBox would be a better choice, or DAB.
Mag, I thought you had a total system installed allready.
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The location of the IBOC or SDARS module in the X358 is behind the back seat, you need to flip the seat back forwards and it mounts on some studs in a similar way to the air suspension module.

All I did with my DAB and Gateway was stack them on top of the Nav unit in the boot, if you don't have the DVD player then there is space on top. And actually the holes in the DAB module lined up perfectly with the holes in the top of the stack, just had to remove the mounting brackets from the module, and bend the top of the stack inwards. The DAB (or in your case IBOC) module goes on top, the gateway fits below it.

Haven't got an updated pic of it right now sorry.
 
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Old 03-09-2017, 05:47 AM
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Sounds great. Removing the seat is favorable to removing the rear shelf in my opinion, so will carry on.

Main reason for doing this is the have free HD Radio (IBOC) instead of subscription based Sirius.

Mainly a curiosity, there are not may HD channels in my locale; am hoping it may be of use on long trips when the phone's music selection becomes too familiar.

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Old 03-09-2017, 05:13 PM
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Ok.

See photos of removal of rear seat.

Front seats forward
Seat bottom out
Seat back out
Sirius unit exposed
 
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Old 03-09-2017, 05:15 PM
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Sirius on screen
Sirius module in place
HD Radio (iboc) module --- is this the right module?
 
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Old 03-09-2017, 05:20 PM
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Fiber connection from the Sirius box does not seem to match the connector on the HD radio module.

Are the modules swappable? Or are additional connectors/adapters required?
 
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Old 03-09-2017, 05:22 PM
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Am thinking I will be revisiting this soon so I removed the Sirius antenna, fiber and power connections and fed them into the trunk boot.

Easier to access this from the trunk boot than having to remove seat...

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Old 03-09-2017, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Maine
My 2006 factory unit is located right rear fender well (boot). This is the jaguar fitted unit that had the controller in place of the ashtray. I think the later units had the controls built into the head unit. Veff or Evan would know. Evan has the later year car. I canned the Sirius unit and only use my VeffBox when the Sirius unit started acting up. Sirius had too many short loop tracks for the money and not the greatest sound. Are you planning on installing Cambo's DAB retro fit or Sirius? I don't think the Sirius system is worth it. Streaming with a VeffBox would be a better choice, or DAB.
Mag, I thought you had a total system installed allready.
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Yes, 08 XJ with the factory Sirius, head unit with the 'band' button, the D2B to MOST gateway in the trunk---all complete and factory.

Just want to remove Sirius module and replace with HD radio IBOC module.

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Old 03-09-2017, 05:43 PM
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Here are some photos of the HD radio unit and eBay description.

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Originally Posted by magmedia
Fiber connection from the Sirius box does not seem to match the connector on the HD radio module.

Are the modules swappable? Or are additional connectors/adapters required?
Ah that's a MOST + Power connector.

Like this MOST Fiber Optic 4 + 2 Multimedia Connector 1-1355639-1 For Audi BMW Benz 2Pcs | eBay

But that supplier doesn't include the terminals for the electrical connections. You might have to hack something up (like I did for the gateway module, get some terminals out of another connector and push them straight over the pins.
 
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:30 PM
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Helpful. Found the following relatable attached.

Any ideas on the power connector pinout?

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Should be in the wiring diagrams for the X358, have you got them?

EDIT

Here just in case

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And you can see the pins numbered on the plug in this pic

 

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Old 03-11-2017, 05:49 AM
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Perfect.

Hadn't made it to the electrical diagrams yet; thanks for the prompt!

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You discovered one of the hidden gems of the MOST system - super weird connectors. Everyone and their mother creates strange connectors incorporating the fiber optic cables and a random number of power + control lines, just so nothing is compatible between cars.

This one looks simple enough, but you still have to figure out how to plug the fiber optic cables. Does it fit?
 
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:55 AM
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No, the connector does not fit.

On the original connector, there is a small blue wedge that appears to secure the optic cables in place within the connector.

While fiddling, I removed this blue 'wedge' and I expected the fibers to pull out of the backside of the connector. They did not budge; so as you say, this is a remaining obstacle.

It may seem better to source the cable (most to iboc) in tact rather than 'rebuild the existing' cable.

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There are little tabs you need to prise up to extract the fiber ends from the connector.

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Old 03-12-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cambo
There are little tabs you need to prise up to extract the fiber ends from the connector.

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Gotcha. I was hoping it were like the d2b optic cables and did this.

I was losing daylight and wanted to get the car back together for this weekend's trip so I did not look too closely.

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Old 03-12-2017, 08:32 PM
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You need a housing like this one:
MOST Fiber Optic 4 + 2 Multimedia Connector 1-1355639-1 For Audi BMW Benz 2Pcs | eBay

Move the fiber optic pins to the new housing and use regular dupont pins for the 4 electrical connectors.

A little cheaper on aliexpress 2 for $17,
https://goo.gl/yFPDq9
 

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Old 03-12-2017, 08:37 PM
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There is also this dude, who sells tons of Jauar fiber optic cables, maybe he would have the correct cable for you:
OEM Jaguar XJ8 XJR S-Type X-Type Fiber Optic Cable EACH Your Choice of Many | eBay
 



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