Steering column locked - non starter
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you could try disconnecting the battery, touching touching both cables together for 30 seconds. Open drivers door, manually lock it, reconnect battery and unlock the door with the key fob. May or may not work. Have you tried another key? Sounds like it has stopped communicating with the transponder. You may need to read the codes with SDD, icarsoft etc. You can download the tech manual from the sticky thread https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...enance-246865/ Look at the antitheft section somewhere around pages 164 or 5. It explains all the components and how the steering column lock gets it's power.
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Hi all, I’m the chap helping Nick with his jag. The trouble code stored B2169 which I think specified the steering lock is stuck or the motor is faulty. On insertion and removal off the key I can here a couple of clicks from the direction of the steering lock actuator but it’s such a pig to get to to do any tests. We are going to try to remove it. Nick didn’t say at least I don’t think he did, that the steering wheel is not locked- it turns. As a replacement new is no longer available does anyone know if a part from another car can be coded in to work ok?
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The thread states steering column locked and non starter. But b2169 is SLCM malfunction. There is a sensor on the SLCM electric motor that determines lock and unlock modes. If you can hear the motor working then the sensor is bad. It may be locking and unlocking but the it doesn't know it is. The whole piece can be changed without programming.
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The thread states steering column locked and non starter. But b2169 is SLCM malfunction. There is a sensor on the SLCM electric motor that determines lock and unlock modes. If you can hear the motor working then the sensor is bad. It may be locking and unlocking but the it doesn't know it is. The whole piece can be changed without programming.
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This has very litle to do with Jaguar.
At the turn of the century I worked for Invensys Inc, what used to be BTR (British Tire and Rubber) Among other things the division made Steering Colomn Locks for Corvettes. It was housed in zinc die cast housing. It had requirements to unlock steering colomn in very short time, like a second or less, when actual locking tonque was pinch with stearing shaft and housing. Without wiggling steering wheel the unlocking forces are quite high,as you can guess.
To achive required force motor was turning worm making nut move along the worm. Space constraints from OEM were so tight, that there were no room to have motor stop within reasonable time without activator hitting end stop with same force close to one needed to withdraw tonque. Space constraint lead to very thin die cast walls.
Housing wall would crack. As result Sensor would indicate steering colomn is unlocked but it was. In one case failure manifested itself locking steering wheel in a car moving at excess of 90mi/hr in Arabian desert...if someone fonders, there were no human life lost.
I know, this sounds like a war storry. this thread brought up memories I wanted to share.
At the turn of the century I worked for Invensys Inc, what used to be BTR (British Tire and Rubber) Among other things the division made Steering Colomn Locks for Corvettes. It was housed in zinc die cast housing. It had requirements to unlock steering colomn in very short time, like a second or less, when actual locking tonque was pinch with stearing shaft and housing. Without wiggling steering wheel the unlocking forces are quite high,as you can guess.
To achive required force motor was turning worm making nut move along the worm. Space constraints from OEM were so tight, that there were no room to have motor stop within reasonable time without activator hitting end stop with same force close to one needed to withdraw tonque. Space constraint lead to very thin die cast walls.
Housing wall would crack. As result Sensor would indicate steering colomn is unlocked but it was. In one case failure manifested itself locking steering wheel in a car moving at excess of 90mi/hr in Arabian desert...if someone fonders, there were no human life lost.
I know, this sounds like a war storry. this thread brought up memories I wanted to share.
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