Throttle body elbow issue
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Robert Page (06-09-2013)
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Ok so the Red circle in the photo is a push fit retaining clip that the brake booster pipe goes into the other side of the red clip piece is the O ring. The red piece is a lot larger than the X type black clip in the kit previously mentioned. The o ring has the leak but you break the red clip when getting to it and so render the elbow useless. This is the only picture I can find of a part that looks the same and you cannot take photo's as the elbow is under the throttle body at the back of the engine the only way to see the part is with an inspection camera. To get the part out is about 6 hrs of work which I am not qualified to do so the fix that I come up with had better work because its about 4 hrs to get it all back together. I cannot believe I am the only person having problems with faults on my car, my dealer replaced one of these just last week when an owner tried to fix a leak at an Indy garage. I started a thread on the XKR forum as the same engine is in the cars up to 2006 and some people don't look over here in the XJR site. So the end of the day is that if this clip is not available which it looks like it is not its either silicone seal it in as my tech says is the only option or a new elbow at the $2500 price fitted! After the ACC unit repair last month this really is taking me over the edge what next.
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Robert Page (06-09-2013)
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If you must get a new induction elbow, the $2000 is a bit inflated, unless $1300 is labor
I took the time to look at the JEPC and then put in the part number into Gaudin's online website. I'd still work on that o-ring insert before giving up that kind of money. A rental car for a few days while you can take off the induction elbow yourself would still be money saved...if you're up for taking it off DIY-style.
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There are 3 differant sizes, the xtype wont work. You can silicone it to seal it and this can then be removed later. Do not epoxy it or youll reall ypiss off who works on it and youll be buying more parts later. You can weld a aluminum an fitting on as antoher member here did and hose it up to the brake booster line(thats the pipe)
i have several kits if i can find what i did with them. Theyre not avail from jaguar, sourced outside and was a royal pia to put them together. You dont remove the brass piece, you leave it in, and with some custom tools you can change the oring and sleeve without removing the elbow. You have to remove the tb and map sensor but it doable. Small hands help too![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The orings get cooked because of not only time but that wonderfull hot EGR port right next to it pumping out hot exhaust gas into the intake. other sources of leaks that people overlook is the oring on the oil dipstick. dont think these really matter? Just take off the oil fill cap on the cam cover with it idling and see how it runs
i have several kits if i can find what i did with them. Theyre not avail from jaguar, sourced outside and was a royal pia to put them together. You dont remove the brass piece, you leave it in, and with some custom tools you can change the oring and sleeve without removing the elbow. You have to remove the tb and map sensor but it doable. Small hands help too
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The orings get cooked because of not only time but that wonderfull hot EGR port right next to it pumping out hot exhaust gas into the intake. other sources of leaks that people overlook is the oring on the oil dipstick. dont think these really matter? Just take off the oil fill cap on the cam cover with it idling and see how it runs
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Robert Page (06-11-2013)
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Thanks Brutal, I will call the shop AM and stop them trying the X Type Fix and get them to Silicone seal the pipe, if you can find a kit that would be amazing just let me know how much and I will get the money to you. Can't believe what a royal pain this is just for an O ring and a plastic retainer.
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