So I have this 2004 Jag XJ8....

I have no records of any previous services, neither does the main Jaguar dealer.

I therefore have to assume that no services have been done for a long, long time. This thought has been backed up by pieces of the sponge from the interior air conditioner filter being so degraded that it has been blown out of the outlets onto the seats.

The air filter looks like its never been changed, haven't checked spark plugs yet. and the ashtray was full (okay, I just made that bit up!, surely no one smokes in cars these days?).

The Jag Dealer wanted $800+ to carry out the service but I found that the majority of it all I can do myself. I am spanner savvy and a quick learner when it comes to doing what is best for my vehicles. My Honda ST1300 motorbike is fully maintained by me at a fraction of the cost a dealer would charge me.

Therefore what I am leading upto is the following:

What items and from where should I use to replace on my vehicle for the 150K service? Bearing in mind I have not had a Jag before and am open to suggestions about what to use for oils, filters and lubes?

Brake fluid, Coolant and power steering, washer fluid and electrolyte I am happy to deal with as they really are very generic to all vehicles.

However, what about:

Engine Oil - Brand name and type?
Drive belts? OEM only?
Air Filter - OEM or K&N or other perhaps?
Fuel Filter - OEM Only?
Spark Plugs - Surely just replace with Iridium spec ones?
Accessory Drive Belt - OEM only?
Engine Oil Filter - Brand, model or stick with OEM?
Brake Pads - OEM or Not?
Pollen Filter - OEM or other?

Now I know a lot of the above mentioned items are not required for the 150K service, but as I notioned above, I have not idea when the last service was done so am quite happy to replace everything. Then that is my baseline.

Any assistance with the above would be greatly appreciated.

 

OK so no service records, but how does the car look and feel to drive ? What does the oil look like when you pull the dipstick ?

It is a 2004, therefore it should have had servicing every year or 10k miles, In your case with 150k miles it has done about 15k miles a year so should have had 15 services even though it is only 9 years old.

Don't forget the windscreen wipers, they are past their best by 2 years.

Coolant is an OAT type, and in this case, check out carefully the specification, which is a Ford spec. The replacement interval is quite lengthy.

You might care to look round the underneath and check suspension bushes as these can wear prematurely. IN fact a general check all round is essential, but you know this anyway. There is a TSB for a rear brake lines check to remove some sound-deadening material that held water and could corrode the brake pipes. The Jaguar main agent will be able to tell you if the car as been checked or not based on the VIN.

I suggest you take the front top cover off that covers the front of the radiator and check the three earths (US-grounds), and the brake pipe running across for corrosion. Also check the hood unlatches easily and doesn't need a hard pull. If it's hard, replace the latch cable, they are cheap enough, plus oil the two latches. BTW, oiling will not bring a corroded cable back, (my experience !!)

If you're doing your own work, you can get stuff off the internet at far less cost.

 

Wipers don't last even that long, I make about 8 months between them.
Brakes, I've run Wagner thermoquiet on centric rotors and been quite happy...pads from dealer are roughly $90 for each end
Oil and filter- I usually go with the jag oe filter, it's only $15 at my dealer...castrol 5-30 is the recommended and I've had no problems running 5-30 syntec and my jag has 140k
Air filter- I shy away from the k&n, if you don't lube it just right, the oil for it can burn out the MAF
Pollen filter- these changed a lot based on VIN and you might have trouble sourcing the appropriate size aftermarket. I'm a G25xxx VIN and can't ever seem to get the right one from anywhere but the dealer.
Spark plugs in modern engines can last a really long time- I'd pull codes to see if you're having any misfires before venturing in to this job.

 

Oh yeah, I smoke in mine, but never use the ashtray. I smoke cigars and only with the windows down and sunroof open and I use a specialty ashtray with an airtight lid that fits in the upholder as well as an ozone bomb when I detail the car. Regardless of whether you smoke, drop by a cigar shop and look for smoke be gone or something to that affect... It comes in a little aerosol can like a bug bomb and does wonders whether you smoke or not....set it off with ac on high and recirculate for about ten minutes then open everything up and drive for a bit

 

Without any service records, I would go through all items on the service schedule to give a baseline to start from.

Here's the Jaguar Maintenance Sheets for your model:





(click on each image to enlarge it)

After completing this, you can then start from the 10K Miles / 12 Month schedule next time.

Graham

 

Thanks for the response guys,

I shall immediately order in the Oil, Pollen, Air and fuel filters from Jaguar as they will definately need changing. The air and pollen filters are both too small for the car and let unfiltered air pass by them (who would do such a thing for the sake of a couple of extra dollars????).

Wipers I have just purchased from Jag at $25 each.

The oil, lubes and other stuff I will collect locally as per your recommendations.

I will get some new correct spec Iridiums off amazon, typically they are cheapest I have found. I won't change any though until I pull some codes off the engine ( which seems easier said than done, see my other new thread!!!).

I will probably go with OEM brake pads too, front and rear.

Looking underneath properly is quite a challenge at the moment as I don't have access to ramps or jacks. I will get to check the ABS sensors and the bushings sometime today I hope. I shall also check up on the material covering the rear brake pipes.

Jaguar dealer did note though that all of the recall jobs had been completed, which was a good thing to hear.

I had the radiator cover off yesturday and had a good nose around, I will do it again today and check the brake pipe, and the 3 earth points as you mentioned. I will also regrease (WD40) the bonnet release catches and fine spray hose down the radiator fins, all 3 of them???

There's a list of issues things growing daily with this Jag, but slowly and surely I will tick them off one by one until they are all completed, and she will run and look sweeeeeet!!!

 

Your car's the same colour as mine ! Of all the dark colours this is one of the best IMHO.

 

I can't imagine why the air filter would be to small, but that would concern the heck out of me.
Like I said with the pollen filter, I've had no luck anywhere but the dealer for that....all the ones from elsewhere are about an inch to small on the long side.....that's not all that concerning, just won't be filtering optimally and could allow leaves and debris in to the fan....more than likely all that will cause is a nuisance clicking.

 

Check transmission cooling lines, control arm bushings, should change transmission pan-filter-fluid (sold as a kit). Check brake fluid condition and radiator overflow tank condition.

 

Same here. Auto part stores have the wrong info for what the correct size is. If you could go by a Ford dealer and see if parts dept can just visually match up would do a lot of XJ8 owners a big service.

 

Hello, Checking out the info that has been given about the trans Fluid and filter. My 94 XJ6 had a metal screen for a filter which looked to have rather large holes in it. I've sold the 94' and have a 1998 XJ8 and will be changing fluid and filter soon. I can see why the need is there for a filter but nor much for a Screen. The 98' has a different Trans so does it have a screen or a filter?Is there a fluid that works better in the 98 than the recomended?

 

This is a no-brainer folks. Cabin Air Filter: Wix 49379 Got it through Amazon. Fits perfectly.

 

A little more info on the stuff I've used so far. I got my '05 back in April with 74k on it and have done the following:

Oil: Mobile 1 5w30 (on 2nd change now--I do it every 5k)

Oil Filter:
Wix 51228

Brake Fluid: Pentosin Super DOT4 Brake Fluid (500 ML) Spec: esa-m6c25-a
Air Filter:
WIX Part # 42261

Cabin Filter:
WIX Part# 49379

Plugs: NDK IFR5N10 Laser Iridium (purchased from RockAuto$9.62 6/10/13, haven't installed them yet)

Steering fluid: Valvoline Dextron III

Steering additive for squealing seals: C2S48887 (Jag part number, was $30 at independent dealer)

Coolant: WSS-M97B44-D Prestone Extended Life Antifreeze/coolant
5 year/150k miles. Orange lid.

If it hasn't been done yet, you should replace all of the coolant hoses, thermostat, etc. I got my hoses from a combination of places (on line, some from the local dealer, etc.). I replaced all hoses except one, plus the water pump, the thermostat and housing. I haven't replace that dang hose that goes under the intake manifold (I have it, but it is such a big project I decided to wait until it is cooler to do it.

Also, I purchased a new trans pan/filter but will change that when it is cooler as well. Not sure what I'm going to do about the fluid; the Jag stuff is absurdly expensive. There are other fluids out there that are supposed to be compatible; the gentleman with the XKR that did a video on replacing the pan used one of the other ones. I've pinged him on whether the alternate he used has caused any issues or not but haven't gotten a reply. So I'm still waiting to see what fluid I'll finally end up using.

I haven't had to change the brake pads yet, but I will absolutely go for Akebono ceramic; had then on my '97 and they were a dream (clean and stopped fantastic). Worth the slightly higher cost over others.

 

Oh, I also replaced the following:
Replaced serpentine belt
Replaced water pump
Replaced belt tensioner
Replaced Idler pulley

All were purchased from Autopartswarehouse.com and all fit perfectly (some OEM, some aftermarket). I have part numbers if you are interested.

 

Hello and welcome to the beautiful world of Jaguar,I find it hard to beleive that the dealer has no records on the car when the car came with 6 year 100k miles that the orginal owner had to have went to the dealer at some point during the ownership.Usually all one has to do is give the last 6 of the vin# when calling the dealer and at least the hisory will come of of the factory maintenance performed.If it was me, the first thing I would do would be service the tranny,it has most stress on it then any other part,and can fail without any signs of proof just by having dirty fluid.Yes if possible go with iridiums,I chose pulstar for mine.As for the cabin filter yes diy,and air cleaner, also( K AND N) for sure.Normally radiator flush is done at 156k miles, and yes prestone 50/50 will work just as good as OEM without causing issues.As for oil I personally use mobile 1 filters or purulator and full synthetic 5w30.as for drive belts I would go with OEM because they seem to be a better grade than after market.I have replaced several for customers,and thats maybe the only thing I would go with from dealer.As for brake pads I would go with aftermarket because the cost that you pay from dealer doesn't always translate into quality.There are many other suppliers that offer a better set up for the money, and that depends on how your drive as the owner..so that will be you choice when deciding if your more of a performance driver or not etc.But whatever you decide,we are always here to help with our experiences and insight..You have a gorgeous car ....well done!

 

Part numbers, most definitely.
Me and probably a few others on here could use them for sure !!

I am the sort of person who likes to create a list/set of stuff for each service that is due. Just a list of the items needed, their make/brand and where to purchase them as a one off. It saves so much hassle I find. Once I get the first one done, I shall post it here.

 

The kit I bought included the ZF fluid. There should be a thread on it. The place is a ZF parts shop out of CA.

 

you mentioned the windscreen wipers. You can get genuine new rubbers, and fit then to the old blades after you swap them, so you have a spare set ready for next time. The rubbers seem quite soft and thin, they are very silent, but maybe that's why they wear quickly. The washer part is actually detachable. I have wondered if there is an off-the-shelf Trico blade at half the price of the Jag part that you could clip the washer into.

Suspension bushes are notorious for short life and may ned changing at intervals of about 60k miles. They are very big. You should be able to get exchange parts with new bushes pressed into them. The road noise clunks will probably get quieter when you fit new ones.

The price difference between original and substitute filters is (for me) so small that I just get the originals from a specialist parts supplier. The air filter box lid is very tricky to fit correctly, unless you take it off and trim back the curved hook from the locating lugs with a dremel or similar. There is a vid link on here somewhere. The petrol filter is the only one that is much work. I like to write fitted date and mileage on filters.

the cabin filter box has a water drain at the bottom, clean this out and flush it through. It is likely to be clogged with bits of leaf and dirt.

When you try to change the oil filter you will probably find the screws for the plastic shield are all rusted or damaged. Order up a dozen 20mm M6 flanged stainless screws, some M6 Form C stainless washers, and some new spire nuts. Hex headed screws are I think preferable to the original Torx screws. Ther are two silly brackets in the centre that are probably rusted or broken, they are a Jag part. If not broken yet, grease well and fit new M6 stainless nyloc nuts. I sprayed the new brackets and the spire nuts with anti-corrosive paint before fitting. Copper in contact with aluminium causes corrosion so get some calcium grease

I expect your floor mats will be worn out, you can get nice made-to-measure ones in at least three grades of quality (also rubber mats for winter) so try to look at material samples if ordering. The original Jag luxury lambswool mats, if you have them, are very thick and soft and fluffy, so need careful cleaning. a new set will cost some hundreds.

 

I only purchased the rubbers, each is a different length at £25 each.

Lower suspension arm bushes have split on both sides and will require to be changed when I can get the time, equipt and money to do so.

I have identified all filters are available on Amazon from Wix and will buy them all at once along with the oils and lubes.

I swagged a Ford air filter off a parting XJ8 and it fits perfectly. But am still going to replace it with a new Wix one. I did clean out all the leaves and check the drain plug for clogging and its good.

I wish I could change out all the screws for the undertray air deflector , but mine is missing and trying to get hold of one outside of the dealer is proving very difficult. SO i can just jack the car up and place it on stands and drain it really quickly.

The best Anti corrosive stuff I have ever used and had nothing but praise for is called ACF50. I swear by it for protecting any metals against rusting.

I just purchased some weathertech rubber mats for the front . The passenger side fits well, the driver side has a slight kink off the carpet on the side by the accelerator. Its not excessive but for $55 you would think they would at least sit flat on the carpet.

 

wiper rubbers for £25? that's shocking.

I can't find my invoice with the part no's but I see a typical blade is £15.54 ex VAT and a rubber £8.95 ex VAT at David Manners in UK (C2C25323 and C2C25330) Jaguar Parts detail from David Manners Ltd Partno-C2C25323-WIPER BLADE RH X350 / S-TYPE LHD

(their "search by part name" feature is extremely bad)