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Originally Posted by Japthug
Any aftermarket shocks are not as soft as genuine ones, so when you want a soft ride you have to go for genuine Bilstein or a set of Koni. But BOGE is the softest of all the aftermarket shocks IMO, but they are more expansive than Monroe or KYB.
Just to clear up any confustion about Boge, it is not an "aftermarket" brand. Boge supplied original equipment shocks on many Jaguar models, including our '93 Vanden Plas and our previous '88 Sovereign. I have not been able to collect specific data, but I suspect that Boge made shocks for Jaguar's "comfort-oriented" models, while Bilsteins were used on sport models and base models. Perhaps all of the X300s were equipped with Bilsteins. I just wanted to correct the idea that Boge is somehow a lesser "aftermarket" brand. Since some of the M3s came equipped with Boges, BMW must consider them a top-tier manufacturer. This should also tell us that not all Boges are tuned for comfort.

Boge & Sachs are German companies now part of the ZF conglomerate that also manufactures transmissions and steering racks used in Jaguars. At least for some Jaguar models, it has been proven that the Boge and Sachs shocks are stamped with the identical factory part numbers.

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Originally Posted by Don B
Just to clear up any confustion about Boge, it is not an "aftermarket" brand. Boge supplied original equipment shocks on many Jaguar models, including our '93 Vanden Plas and our previous '88 Sovereign. I have not been able to collect specific data, but I suspect that Boge made shocks for Jaguar's "comfort-oriented" models, while Bilsteins were used on sport models and base models. Perhaps all of the X300s were equipped with Bilsteins. I just wanted to correct the idea that Boge is somehow a lesser "aftermarket" brand. Since some of the M3s came equipped with Boges, BMW must consider them a top-tier manufacturer. This should also tell us that not all Boges are tuned for comfort.

Actually BOGE has not been used as genuine shock after X300, all the Jaguars has been equipped Bilstein since then, so BOGE should not be called original or OEM anymore. I know BOGE is not such a bad product, but in that meaning KYB is also a good brand, they make a lot of genuine Japanese car shocks.
At least when one choose those brand name shocks he won't regret of the quality, but the ride comfort is another matter.
 
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Thanks for , that info, I will do that......
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bilstein shocks for jaguars comes with the foam rubber bushing as standard.
 
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bilstein shocks for jaguars comes with the foam rubber bushing as standard.
As do the Monroe's. I'm determined to get my left side upper shock bushings replaced without taking off the coolant reservoir(and draining) or the intake. the Supercharger makes it a bit more cramped. Hoping crowfoot wrench on driver will do the trick.
 
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Have the shop take a peek at the anti-roll bar bushings and end links as well.

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Doug,

I had the lower control arm and the anti-roll bar bushings changed at the same time. They also changed the end links. Since I have had the new lower shock bushings and the other three things done at the same time, the front end is much harder.

That said, it seems to be softening up a bit but is still too harsh. Seems harder even than a BMW 3 series or an Infiniti G.

Do you know the correct part number for the lower front shock bushings?
I will change those first. I am also wondering if they used the wrong drop links now.

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Originally Posted by cool
bilstein shocks for jaguars comes with the foam rubber bushing as standard.
Did yours come with both the top and bottom bushings?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Burnaby
Did yours come with both the top and bottom bushings?
My Bilsteins came with upper and lower bushings for the rear shocks...upper only for the front.
 
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Originally Posted by mailshack
My Bilsteins came with upper and lower bushings for the rear shocks...upper only for the front.
That is because the front shock does not have a lower bushing, just a fork. The lower bushing is pressed into the steering knuckle, so is considered part of the car.
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Burnaby
Do you know the correct part number for the lower front shock bushings?

CAC75851

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CAC75851

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Doug,

Are the top yellow bushings also available separately and do you have that part number?

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Old 05-04-2014, 11:34 AM
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Jaguar, via their 'classic parts' program, has good on-line catalog here:

Find Jaguar Classic Parts Online | Jaguar Classic Parts UK

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Originally Posted by Japthug
Actually BOGE has not been used as genuine shock after X300, all the Jaguars has been equipped Bilstein since then, so BOGE should not be called original or OEM anymore. I know BOGE is not such a bad product, but in that meaning KYB is also a good brand, they make a lot of genuine Japanese car shocks.
At least when one choose those brand name shocks he won't regret of the quality, but the ride comfort is another matter.
For X300 and X350 Boge is the OEM and ORIGINAL no matter how they switch to other manufacturer for their later models, Boge is still called OEM for X300.
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Burnaby
Doug,

Are the top yellow bushings also available separately and do you have that part number?

Thanks,
the foam bushings are most often included in the purchase of the shocks. except for KYB which supplies rubber bushings (color black) might be a bit too squeaky but more durable as they do not deteriorate as compared to the foam bushings of Boge or Bilstein.
 
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Originally Posted by cool
For X300 and X350 Boge is the OEM and ORIGINAL no matter how they switch to other manufacturer for their later models, Boge is still called OEM for X300.

Then why are my originals marked "Bilstein" ? :-)


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Originally Posted by Doug
Then why are my originals marked "Bilstein" ? :-)


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Did you buy the car new? If not it would be hard to know if original.
 
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