Airbag again
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Airbag again
So the days I drive the cat, weekends, every time I start it in the morning I get the airbag light. If I drive for 20 minutes, stop, turn off the car and start it again I don't see it for the rest of the day. This happens Saturday and Sunday of course. This even happens even though I put a trickle charger on it. I have also been driving and it just goes off by itself. So is this a power issue? Would that cause a airbag light
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You tinkered with it on steering column replacement , and this would be the data bus wire that passes through the ABS / TC module , instrumment cluster , steering column control module , and others
On the left rear speed sensor circuit . the inductance signal ( not data bus ) passes through the ABS / SC module on its way to the variable steering speed amplifier and the instrument cluster
You had a issue with one of the rear instrument cluster connectors
But the easy try would be to remove the fuses a depower the devices ( 3 for the IC ) if they were to be corrupting the 2 different signals
Your fault light showing up on starting it may be a before it gives the system to you bite test ( there is a better word for it ) and not a functional fault
On the left rear speed sensor circuit . the inductance signal ( not data bus ) passes through the ABS / SC module on its way to the variable steering speed amplifier and the instrument cluster
You had a issue with one of the rear instrument cluster connectors
But the easy try would be to remove the fuses a depower the devices ( 3 for the IC ) if they were to be corrupting the 2 different signals
Your fault light showing up on starting it may be a before it gives the system to you bite test ( there is a better word for it ) and not a functional fault
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Hmmm so which fuses are you speaking of? The steering control Module. Also what I think is very interesting is that I can start and drive my car 10 times during the day and the only time it comes on is that first start before I drive it 20 minutes. Also if I drive it with it on eventually it will turn off. The battery is new and I keep it on a trickle charger over the week. I tried to run a diagnostic but nothing comes up
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Not all code readers are going to see the airbag module , lucky to find one that sees all transmission codes , T codes
Have you reviewed the X300 Airbags for Dummies doc ?
He recommended in a post to not altering the 2.5 ohm test resistors
Fuse list coming
Have you reviewed the X300 Airbags for Dummies doc ?
He recommended in a post to not altering the 2.5 ohm test resistors
Fuse list coming
Last edited by Parker 7; 02-14-2022 at 10:21 AM.
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I found it and print it out. I will go through it but there is a good chance that I can go through one test and the next time I go to test it again that it may not be there. Based on the faults at the bottom the only thing that I can think of it could be is the first fault, or low battery, or a Back‐up Power Supply ‐ Voltage Boost Fault (Whatever that is). What I am thinking is that driving the vehicle charges the battery and that is why the fault goes away and overnight the battery drains a little and that is why I get the fault. I noticed when driving that the battery is charging about 14-14.5V
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Hmmm. I have an extra module. Maybe I just swap it out and see if that fixes the problem. I am sure that when someone has a battery issue on their car their airbag light does not go on and I am pretty sure that my battery is fine. Like I said I run a trickle charge on it. Maybe that battery does not charge until the vehicle is started and runs.
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Here is a link to the board and does not appear to be a battery. Appears that there are a few capacitors in there that might store the energy. I think that is what they are speaking of "Reserve Power" in the diagram in the PDF
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...module-134360/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...module-134360/
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Start up bite test or a different change over power source from the self contained battery to the main battery bus
This would be opposite of a as you crash senereo of coming from the battery bus and a interrupted battery bus reverting to the internal battery
The inertia / crash switch plays a independent role from my understanding and is only looking at the different crash sensors at the front car grill and one on the side by the front right door hinge
airbag control module have a good ground ? This may be in the form of a pin ground or a dedicated case ground wire strap like the ECU
I don't recall there being a dedicated case ground as my airbag control module is still out of the car and have not activated my replacement air bags from the previous owner's accident
This would be opposite of a as you crash senereo of coming from the battery bus and a interrupted battery bus reverting to the internal battery
The inertia / crash switch plays a independent role from my understanding and is only looking at the different crash sensors at the front car grill and one on the side by the front right door hinge
airbag control module have a good ground ? This may be in the form of a pin ground or a dedicated case ground wire strap like the ECU
I don't recall there being a dedicated case ground as my airbag control module is still out of the car and have not activated my replacement air bags from the previous owner's accident
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Here is a link to the board and does not appear to be a battery. Appears that there are a few capacitors in there that might store the energy. I think that is what they are speaking of "Reserve Power" in the diagram in the PDF
Yes I see the heat damage of the adjacent white device but would expect a larger Cap to be able to fire off the squibs
We switched from internal batteries to Caps in other similar devises in the airlines based on delay driven reliabilities , Floor egress path light trigger monitors
Yes I see the heat damage of the adjacent white device but would expect a larger Cap to be able to fire off the squibs
We switched from internal batteries to Caps in other similar devises in the airlines based on delay driven reliabilities , Floor egress path light trigger monitors
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Here is a link to the board and does not appear to be a battery. Appears that there are a few capacitors in there that might store the energy. I think that is what they are speaking of "Reserve Power" in the diagram in the PDF
Yes I see the heat damage of the adjacent white device but would expect a larger Cap to be able to fire off the squibs
We switched from internal batteries to Caps in other similar devises in the airlines based on delay driven reliabilities , Floor egress path light trigger monitors
Yes I see the heat damage of the adjacent white device but would expect a larger Cap to be able to fire off the squibs
We switched from internal batteries to Caps in other similar devises in the airlines based on delay driven reliabilities , Floor egress path light trigger monitors
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There are 2 fuses to the airbag module , a main power and a separate one that in part feeds the power storage device inside
Wil look up if the fuses are hot at all times or rely on the fuse box king relay to close in the starting sequence
Need to run to the store
Just got my cancer report back after deep testing and results were never had cancer and that puts me in the kidney transplant list at KU
Look for a can Cap like in the pic on the other thread you linked , this will probably be wired directly to the output pins of the control unit to fire the squibs in the airbag
Wil look up if the fuses are hot at all times or rely on the fuse box king relay to close in the starting sequence
Need to run to the store
Just got my cancer report back after deep testing and results were never had cancer and that puts me in the kidney transplant list at KU
Look for a can Cap like in the pic on the other thread you linked , this will probably be wired directly to the output pins of the control unit to fire the squibs in the airbag
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There are 2 fuses to the airbag module , a main power and a separate one that in part feeds the power storage device inside
Wil look up if the fuses are hot at all times or rely on the fuse box king relay to close in the starting sequence
Need to run to the store
Just got my cancer report back after deep testing and results were never had cancer and that puts me in the kidney transplant list at KU
Look for a can Cap like in the pic on the other thread you linked , this will probably be wired directly to the output pins of the control unit to fire the squibs in the airbag
Wil look up if the fuses are hot at all times or rely on the fuse box king relay to close in the starting sequence
Need to run to the store
Just got my cancer report back after deep testing and results were never had cancer and that puts me in the kidney transplant list at KU
Look for a can Cap like in the pic on the other thread you linked , this will probably be wired directly to the output pins of the control unit to fire the squibs in the airbag
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V126man (02-15-2022)
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Fuse # 17 right heelboard fuse box hot at all times , airbag power starage device inside module
Fuse check on this one , you never know
Fuse # 16 trunk requires the trunk fuse box relay ( King Relay ) to close , this is your main power to the airbag control module located way back in the trunk but it was a add on design so where ever empty fuse space was located
Fuse check on this one , you never know
Fuse # 16 trunk requires the trunk fuse box relay ( King Relay ) to close , this is your main power to the airbag control module located way back in the trunk but it was a add on design so where ever empty fuse space was located
Last edited by Parker 7; 02-14-2022 at 03:25 PM.
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cdma (02-14-2022)
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