A Big XJR6 Project
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A Big XJR6 Project
Yesterday I purchased a XJR6 Project. This car has been for sale and sold three times in the last three months. With everyone stating the same issue. 'Needs a new Mass Air Flow Sensor'..
Well, the only reason i purchased was because the price was right for me to play around! This is what I have figured out so far.
Yes, the car idles rough if the MAF is plugged in, but it idles smooth if you unplug it, but there is a serious lack of power, but the car runs very very smooth. There is a MAF code.
So after it running for a long time, i realized there is no supercharger whine, but there is a supercharger there and it's connected up. So I think the supercharger is dead! And this is not a MAF issue, but air is not passing thru at correct amount. It does be more responsive at 3/4 throttle, but very slow response at full Throttle.
Just looking for help, anything to test to see if it's the supercharger? What do I need to do? Thanks All.
Well, the only reason i purchased was because the price was right for me to play around! This is what I have figured out so far.
Yes, the car idles rough if the MAF is plugged in, but it idles smooth if you unplug it, but there is a serious lack of power, but the car runs very very smooth. There is a MAF code.
So after it running for a long time, i realized there is no supercharger whine, but there is a supercharger there and it's connected up. So I think the supercharger is dead! And this is not a MAF issue, but air is not passing thru at correct amount. It does be more responsive at 3/4 throttle, but very slow response at full Throttle.
Just looking for help, anything to test to see if it's the supercharger? What do I need to do? Thanks All.
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Supercharger MAF # LNA1620AA
The MAF will read 1.2 volts DC on the middle wire while still plugged in and the proper idle speed
On the perceive lack of supercharger suggest do a harmonic balancer check
you will have the 3rd pully but the same test , after loading up the alternator , A/C compressor the marks should stay lined up after engine shut down
The MAF will read 1.2 volts DC on the middle wire while still plugged in and the proper idle speed
On the perceive lack of supercharger suggest do a harmonic balancer check
you will have the 3rd pully but the same test , after loading up the alternator , A/C compressor the marks should stay lined up after engine shut down
Last edited by Parker 7; 11-28-2022 at 02:44 PM.
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If the air is being compressed the blower out will be warmer , you can pull the intercooler coolant pump fuse to feel it being warmed up by compression better
If the compression is being blead off / bypassed the air temp will return close to ambient
See page 55
jagrepair.com/images/Training Guides/801S - 2000.pdf
If the compression is being blead off / bypassed the air temp will return close to ambient
See page 55
jagrepair.com/images/Training Guides/801S - 2000.pdf
Last edited by Parker 7; 11-28-2022 at 04:05 PM.
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Your supercharged version has a second fuel pump that does not come on until 4000 and turns back off after passing this point down at 3200
You can test the pump by jumper Ing the # 2 fuel pump relay fwd of the battery by itself which is different than the # 1 relay aft of the battery
jumper between sockets 3 to 5
Not sure if a good idea to start the car with the # 2 relay jumpered but only if you have the # 1 relay removed ( overfueling )
If the car will not start after a certain point it will turn on the # 2 fuel pump , so I have read from others
You can test the pump by jumper Ing the # 2 fuel pump relay fwd of the battery by itself which is different than the # 1 relay aft of the battery
jumper between sockets 3 to 5
Not sure if a good idea to start the car with the # 2 relay jumpered but only if you have the # 1 relay removed ( overfueling )
If the car will not start after a certain point it will turn on the # 2 fuel pump , so I have read from others
Last edited by Parker 7; 11-28-2022 at 04:23 PM.
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Thanks for everyone's Help. I spoke to an owner who had the car for a while, (three Owners Back) as I had his contact when I wanted to purchase the car several months ago. Thankfully I waited and paid a lot less!
So there is a couple interesting things. He said he replaced the Harmonic Balancer, and that he replace the MAF, he then said when he replaced it went again. My Theory is as follows,
1.The car engine runs smooth / But lacks power, and when at full throttle 'Bogs Down'. I think Lack of air getting to the Engine.
2. If the Air is not going through the supercharger at the desired speed, it will back up so to speak into the MAF?
3. There is ZERO Supercharger Whine
4. So....I think I need to remove the supercharger. How do I do this? And does any Eaton M90 Supercharger work on this car?
Appreciate the help in restoring this car!
So there is a couple interesting things. He said he replaced the Harmonic Balancer, and that he replace the MAF, he then said when he replaced it went again. My Theory is as follows,
1.The car engine runs smooth / But lacks power, and when at full throttle 'Bogs Down'. I think Lack of air getting to the Engine.
2. If the Air is not going through the supercharger at the desired speed, it will back up so to speak into the MAF?
3. There is ZERO Supercharger Whine
4. So....I think I need to remove the supercharger. How do I do this? And does any Eaton M90 Supercharger work on this car?
Appreciate the help in restoring this car!
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Parker 7 (12-01-2022)
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Propper MAF # LNA1620AA
Check for 1.2 volts DC at idle on the middle wire to see if MAF is alive
Harmonic balancer marking recheck
2nd fuel pump check by jumpering relay as well as jumpering # 1
Eaton M60 or M90 has been done by others . I don't have the supercharger version
There is also changing the pully diameter and increasing the intercooler coolant flow
Check for 1.2 volts DC at idle on the middle wire to see if MAF is alive
Harmonic balancer marking recheck
2nd fuel pump check by jumpering relay as well as jumpering # 1
Eaton M60 or M90 has been done by others . I don't have the supercharger version
There is also changing the pully diameter and increasing the intercooler coolant flow
Last edited by Parker 7; 12-01-2022 at 05:48 PM.
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The # 1 fuel pump relay is in the tray aft of the battery and the # 2 is fwd of the battery by itself
You can jumper from socket 3 ( power ) to 5 which leads to the pump in both relays
A fault of the CKPS is at higher RPMs the square sign wave can not be discerned as well as the pulse groups are closer together
Your fuel pumps are enabled by the CKPS though the ECU
the fuel pump relays are controlled by providing a ground on the control half of the relay at socket # 2
this can be grime on the face of the CKPS other than the connector
As a fuel pump motor fails it will burn the power contacts inside the relay and burn the connector on the pump
you can inspect the connector and replace which some have from reading and swap the fuel pump relay before digging it out
Both fuel pumps use the same control and separate larger power fuse which is # 7 / 30 amp trunk fuse box ' this # 7 fuse is hot at all times
You can jumper from socket 3 ( power ) to 5 which leads to the pump in both relays
A fault of the CKPS is at higher RPMs the square sign wave can not be discerned as well as the pulse groups are closer together
Your fuel pumps are enabled by the CKPS though the ECU
the fuel pump relays are controlled by providing a ground on the control half of the relay at socket # 2
this can be grime on the face of the CKPS other than the connector
As a fuel pump motor fails it will burn the power contacts inside the relay and burn the connector on the pump
you can inspect the connector and replace which some have from reading and swap the fuel pump relay before digging it out
Both fuel pumps use the same control and separate larger power fuse which is # 7 / 30 amp trunk fuse box ' this # 7 fuse is hot at all times
Last edited by Parker 7; 01-02-2023 at 07:07 AM.
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Your concern at this point in time is the higher RPMs so give the CKPS a test at higher RPMs
You could have a bad relay originally in the # 2 position
The fuel being consumed rate at idle would be lower than at higher RPMs
You could have a underperforming fuel pump in either position showing up later at higher RPMs
You could have a bad relay originally in the # 2 position
The fuel being consumed rate at idle would be lower than at higher RPMs
You could have a underperforming fuel pump in either position showing up later at higher RPMs
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the supercharger crankshaft pully can be marked with white paint stripes , run the engine and load up the pulley's with the AC compressor and electrical load cabin blower fans running
Stop the engine and the pully marks should line back up
the rubber compound inside the harmonic balancer can be failing not holding the pulleys together, the compound lets the pulleys give a little bit from each other but will line back up
glazed supercharger belt ?
You can leave the belts on and you will have the 3rd supercharger pully
Stop the engine and the pully marks should line back up
the rubber compound inside the harmonic balancer can be failing not holding the pulleys together, the compound lets the pulleys give a little bit from each other but will line back up
glazed supercharger belt ?
You can leave the belts on and you will have the 3rd supercharger pully
Last edited by Parker 7; 01-02-2023 at 10:35 AM.
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