XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 ) 1995-1997

Brake bleed question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-06-2018, 08:23 AM
sogood's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 948
Received 315 Likes on 224 Posts
Default Brake bleed question

I've already asked some questions on this topic. All were answered very satisfactorily, but here's one more. Is there any preference for running the engine while bleeding the brakes? Would using the servo assist, be preferred or is it better to just use the pedal?

Just thinking about the effort used in braking without servo and the fact that I'd be much more used to the "feel" of the brakes with the engine running.

Thanks in advance.
 
  #2  
Old 01-06-2018, 11:31 AM
Lady Penelope's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Kansas City USA
Posts: 4,039
Received 1,385 Likes on 1,089 Posts
Default

No difference in bleeding just feel
 
  #3  
Old 01-07-2018, 08:24 AM
countyjag's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,074
Received 519 Likes on 370 Posts
Default

So good,
I have never tried bleeding the brakes with the engine running, but would be inclined not to, principally because with the engine running, the ABS unit has power and is operating, and I am not sure how it would react to the sequential loss of pressure in the circuits as you bled them. Also, not sure the servo is helpful or relevant to replacing fluid in the hydraulic circuits. Once upon a time, brake bleeding advice used to start with "pump the pedal to exhaust the servo before commencing bleeding". I feel sure the factory would have stressed it if it was necessary to run the engine.
A good tip before starting to bleed is to close your eyes, and press the pedal several times, trying to remember how it feels. X300s have a soft pedal even when correctly bled, and it is worth having a datum point to compare your efforts with. Many unhappy hours have been spent trying to achieve a rock hard pedal, when this is not in fact attainable.
 
  #4  
Old 01-07-2018, 08:46 AM
Doug's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pacific Northwest USA
Posts: 24,822
Received 10,871 Likes on 7,150 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by countyjag
A good tip before starting to bleed is to close your eyes, and press the pedal several times, trying to remember how it feels. X300s have a soft pedal even when correctly bled, and it is worth having a datum point to compare your efforts with. Many unhappy hours have been spent trying to achieve a rock hard pedal, when this is not in fact attainable.
Good idea.

And, with brakes applied hard, measure the distance from the pedal to the floorboard as well.

You're correct about X300 pedal feel.

It is natural, I reckon, for a person to be hyper-aware after brake repairs/flushing/bleeding. The perception of a problem after brake repairs is very common. Ask anyone who has been in the auto repair industry .

To verify what I knew to be true I used my own family members as test subjects.

For many years, when we all still lived nearby one another, I did all the serving on family members' cars. Over a period of months I would return a car to a family member and claim that I had performed some sort of brake repairs when, in fact, I hadn't gone anywhere near the brake system. In each case, *without fail*, I'd get a phone call describing a concern that "the pedal is soft" or "the pedal is low".

Cheers
DD
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jaguar2986
XJS ( X27 )
1
08-13-2013 03:39 AM
Mickeyb2003
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
9
07-07-2013 03:09 PM
Chas944
X-Type ( X400 )
4
09-10-2012 09:49 PM
benebob
X-Type ( X400 )
11
04-05-2010 06:18 PM
jfrog
XJS ( X27 )
10
10-29-2009 11:20 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Brake bleed question



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:00 AM.