In-dash volt gauge behaviour
#1
In-dash volt gauge behaviour
Noticed a bit of odd behavior with the in-dash volt gauge.
Key to ON position (not start) = 11 volts
Key to cranking position = drops to 10 volts
Engine started, release key = up to 11 volts
After about 5 seconds, voltage rises to 14 volts
When on the road, 14.5+ volts.
I did a volt meter test of the battery (yesterday) and it showed 12.3 volts - according to the volt-meter manual, that's about a 50% degradation of the battery's life. I took the battery to the parts store (this AM) where i buy batteries from, and they did a charge (needed 15 minutes worth) and a load test and they state the battery is fine.
Belt is fine and proper tension and i've sprayed belt dressing on yesterday. I questioned the behavior when i stopped at a stop light a couple days ago (at night, lights on, heater on, 45*F weather) and the voltage dropped to 12 volts (should be 14.5 or so).
I spent about 15 minutes this morning checking the tightness of the various grounds straps in the trunk and under-hood (the visible ones).
My concern is the Key to ON position = 11 volts ... is that what other folks witness? I would think the normal voltage would be 12-something volts at key ON (not started).
Key to ON position (not start) = 11 volts
Key to cranking position = drops to 10 volts
Engine started, release key = up to 11 volts
After about 5 seconds, voltage rises to 14 volts
When on the road, 14.5+ volts.
I did a volt meter test of the battery (yesterday) and it showed 12.3 volts - according to the volt-meter manual, that's about a 50% degradation of the battery's life. I took the battery to the parts store (this AM) where i buy batteries from, and they did a charge (needed 15 minutes worth) and a load test and they state the battery is fine.
Belt is fine and proper tension and i've sprayed belt dressing on yesterday. I questioned the behavior when i stopped at a stop light a couple days ago (at night, lights on, heater on, 45*F weather) and the voltage dropped to 12 volts (should be 14.5 or so).
I spent about 15 minutes this morning checking the tightness of the various grounds straps in the trunk and under-hood (the visible ones).
My concern is the Key to ON position = 11 volts ... is that what other folks witness? I would think the normal voltage would be 12-something volts at key ON (not started).
#2
OK, checked mine as a comparison.
Battery, at the battery = 12.6v
Ign ON =12v and a bit, battery still 12.6v
Start/crank pos is a tad hard, coz mine fires at first rotation, and the gauge/meter are not reactive enough to register.
Running, immediately after start = 14.2v, and settles to 13.6 +/- after 30 minutes or so. This is AT the battery, and the dash gauge is close to that same.
With a/c on, lights on, brakes on (lights that is) in "D" 13.6v at the battery, and 13 and a bit on the dash.
I reckon you have a battery that is one the way out, as we say. If in doubt, purchase a home charger, 4 amps is fine, and charge it overnight yourself, and see what if anything changes. My Jags get the batteries charged every month, and I have NOT purchased a battery for 9 years now.
I know you are up there and I am down here, but fair dinkum a 15 minute charge is not on. A battery requires a 24 hour "soaking charge" prior to any diagnostics. We have a C-Tec charger at work and anyone with a battery that is suspect, MUST leave it for an overnight "soak" prior to doing a load test etc. Batteries that are "belted" with these so called fast chargers mostly die in the near future, they just do not like it.
Battery, at the battery = 12.6v
Ign ON =12v and a bit, battery still 12.6v
Start/crank pos is a tad hard, coz mine fires at first rotation, and the gauge/meter are not reactive enough to register.
Running, immediately after start = 14.2v, and settles to 13.6 +/- after 30 minutes or so. This is AT the battery, and the dash gauge is close to that same.
With a/c on, lights on, brakes on (lights that is) in "D" 13.6v at the battery, and 13 and a bit on the dash.
I reckon you have a battery that is one the way out, as we say. If in doubt, purchase a home charger, 4 amps is fine, and charge it overnight yourself, and see what if anything changes. My Jags get the batteries charged every month, and I have NOT purchased a battery for 9 years now.
I know you are up there and I am down here, but fair dinkum a 15 minute charge is not on. A battery requires a 24 hour "soaking charge" prior to any diagnostics. We have a C-Tec charger at work and anyone with a battery that is suspect, MUST leave it for an overnight "soak" prior to doing a load test etc. Batteries that are "belted" with these so called fast chargers mostly die in the near future, they just do not like it.
#3
Hi Grant ... thanks for spending the time to provide a comparison.
I will get my meter out and do true voltage tests at the battery, rather than using the car's gauge.
For whatever it's worth, i did do a trickle charge (my charger can be set for 12v 6a or 12v 2a) overnight at the 2amp setting, before bringing the battery in for a test ... maybe that's why the auto parts store didnt have to do much of a charge?
I purchased the battery a year ago, almost to the month ... it's a 600 CCA @0*F / 750 CCA @ 32*F.
I'm sure you get temps Down Under similar to what we get here in Houston Texas ... it's not uncommon for us to endure 100*+F temps (plus 90% humidity) for 5-6 months, then as in the last few days , temps drop dramatically, which is taxing on a battery. Our "winter" lasts about 2 months, as a rule.
Again, i much appreciate you spent to the time to provide a comparison. I'll take more readings at the battery with the meter ...
I will get my meter out and do true voltage tests at the battery, rather than using the car's gauge.
For whatever it's worth, i did do a trickle charge (my charger can be set for 12v 6a or 12v 2a) overnight at the 2amp setting, before bringing the battery in for a test ... maybe that's why the auto parts store didnt have to do much of a charge?
I purchased the battery a year ago, almost to the month ... it's a 600 CCA @0*F / 750 CCA @ 32*F.
I'm sure you get temps Down Under similar to what we get here in Houston Texas ... it's not uncommon for us to endure 100*+F temps (plus 90% humidity) for 5-6 months, then as in the last few days , temps drop dramatically, which is taxing on a battery. Our "winter" lasts about 2 months, as a rule.
Again, i much appreciate you spent to the time to provide a comparison. I'll take more readings at the battery with the meter ...
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