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Old 09-22-2014, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vee
Which ones did you buy from Amazon?

It's unlikely that any of them will last you a year. I believe this thread had someone try the Wells brand with not-so-great results.

In any case, please keep us informed in case we are mistaken. This forum is always interested in experiences with coils, especially if it's a good experience.

Here they are: 6x Evan-Fischer EVA13872042513 Ignition Coil Standard Type pack 1 per cylinder Blade 2-prong male terminal
Sold by AutoPartsGiant

Don't remember if I saw this brand mentioned or not. I only put about 5000 miles on per year so maybe I'll get lucky in that way at least. Because of the chance that I won't get lucky I went with as low a price as I could find. $37 per plus free shipping.
 
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:16 AM
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Good News!! We are slowly receiving these 'Made In Japan' OEM coils from our suppliers, I currently have 3 sets on the shelf and plenty more coming in a few weeks. I can sell for $95.00 a piece or 5+ at $90!

(limited time offer to Jaguar Forum members, first come first served, once stock has gone you may back order at this price).

Contact : William@SngBarratt.Com or 1800 452 4787 extension 215 to order.


 
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Old 10-16-2014, 03:43 AM
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What's your UK price and can I get a discount against the three non-OEM coils you sold me a few months back when you cancelled my back order?
 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:32 AM
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UK Retail is 61.67 pounds. I should make it clear that the above offer is for sales from SNG USA only. If you are in the UK/France/Holland please call your local branch and I'm sure they will offer a discount on quantities!
 
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:02 AM
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Finally they will come back in stock next week!
Limited stock of 40, $82 including standard shipping.
Tracking/full insured shipping available at cheap cost.
 
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Old 11-17-2014, 12:07 AM
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Now finally back in stock.
Due to the extreme weakness of the yen, I offer the limited time discount.
Soon the Japanese Cabinet will be assigned, so I don't have an idea how long I can keep this offer.


US dollars: $74 each inc. standard shipping
British pound: £46.5 inc. standard shipping


Looking forward to hearing from you guys soon.
 
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:24 AM
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I drove my car to my mechanic just fine. It sat outside overnight in the cold that night (it usually sits in the garage). He fired it up in the morning and it's only running on four or five cylinders.

Fired it up again in the dark, and two of the cheap coils SNG sold me are producing a beautiful light show.

I told them the chinese substitutes were no good, and I shouldn't have let them talk me in to changing my original order. Now I'm going to have to try and get my money back and order the real McCoys.
 
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:49 PM
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Does anyone know for sure that when a coil "fails" it is because:
1. It stops firing or fires intermittently or
2. It arcs against the wall of the port or
3. ?
 
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rendo
Does anyone know for sure that when a coil "fails" it is because:
1. It stops firing or fires intermittently or
2. It arcs against the wall of the port or
3. ?

Any and all of the above

Intermittent and partial failures seem most common. A totally dead coil seems less common.

Spark leaks thru the boot are common

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Originally Posted by theJPster
I drove my car to my mechanic just fine. It sat outside overnight in the cold that night (it usually sits in the garage). He fired it up in the morning and it's only running on four or five cylinders.

Fired it up again in the dark, and two of the cheap coils SNG sold me are producing a beautiful light show.

I told them the chinese substitutes were no good, and I shouldn't have let them talk me in to changing my original order. Now I'm going to have to try and get my money back and order the real McCoys.




Sorry to hear that.. (Assuming you're in the US/Canada) Give me a call and I will certainly be able to offset the cost against some of the new 'Made in Japan'' coils for you. If in the UK call the sales office and they will be happy to help also..


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Old 01-27-2015, 03:52 AM
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I called SNG UK and they asked for the coils to be returned for testing. If I wanted Made in Japan coils as a replacement, I had to pay full price for them first and get a refund on the old ones later.

So, I sent Japthug a PM.
 
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:17 AM
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I bought my coils from Japthug. Ask for the expedited shipping premium. You'll be amazed at how quickly you get them from Japan.
 
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Old 01-31-2015, 09:24 AM
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<PRICE UPDATE>

I am sorry to say but the source providing cheap boots discontinued making them, so I have to raise the coil price a little bit.
I will get Denso boots, so the quality will get better anyways.
In addition, I decide to state the price only in US $ in order to avoid inequity.


Including normal shipping(approx 2 weeks delivery), boot and gasket

$79


*12 coils left in stock
*Aside from the stock above, I still have 3 stocks with the last cheaper boots, so I can provide only 3 coils @$74. After they have gone, the price of $79 is applied.
*Express shipping with full insurance and tracking available. Approx 3-5 days depending on the destination. Not so expensive, it will be additional $20 at most.
 

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Old 02-03-2015, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EZDriver
Yes, and buying results in a bill that is almost as much as the car is worth. They are only a capacitor. Jag is a RIP OFF!!!
Actually I just got out my dremmel and cut the coil apart.
It is a traditional coil like any other car coil.
Two wrappings of wire isolated by an epoxy and a steel core.
There is a metal can around the entire coil.

So from inside out:
Layered steel core
plastic spool
Epoxy
Inner coil with coated heavy gauge wire
Then another plastic spool
then more epoxy coating the fine gauge wire.
Thick layer of epoxy which is grey and not transparent.
Layer of transparent epoxy.
Metal can
Outer layer of plastic.

I tore apart two coils one of the cheap ones and an original lucas.
I cannot see any difference between the two coils.
Thicknesses of each layer seems exactly the same.

Steve
 
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:25 AM
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On the face of things, a spark plug is a spark plug. But use something other than a Champion and you might have issues. This is an example why people won't by a used Jaguar. I know it's silly...but!
 
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve274
Actually I just got out my dremmel and cut the coil apart.
It is a traditional coil like any other car coil.
Two wrappings of wire isolated by an epoxy and a steel core.
There is a metal can around the entire coil.

So from inside out:
Layered steel core
plastic spool
Epoxy
Inner coil with coated heavy gauge wire
Then another plastic spool
then more epoxy coating the fine gauge wire.
Thick layer of epoxy which is grey and not transparent.
Layer of transparent epoxy.
Metal can
Outer layer of plastic.

I tore apart two coils one of the cheap ones and an original lucas.
I cannot see any difference between the two coils.
Thicknesses of each layer seems exactly the same.

Steve
This is good info. I for one cannot see why a good after market coil cannot be made as good as the OEM. It is just a capacitor after all.
 
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:55 AM
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Actually, they are inductors, not capacitors.

It's probably obvious, but just because "Thicknesses of each layer seems exactly the same" doesn't mean they are the same. See Capacitor plague - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for a famous example of making things out of cheaper materials that don't last as long.

Given the price difference, I very much doubt that the chinese coils use the same grade materials and simply make the saving by cutting labour costs and profit.
 

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Old 02-05-2015, 07:26 AM
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Yup, that really sums up our coil pack issues.
 
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:28 PM
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I installed my new coil packs today. Thanks Japthug! I also replace the plugs and noticed that they are all gas soaked. What's up with that? The car runs perfect.
 
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:12 PM
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I have noticed that the owner's manual specifies .040 for the spark plug gap. Bosch, NGK also specify .040, but Champion specifies .036. I believe that this is significant insofar as coil breakdown is concerned. At what gap are folks setting plugs?
 


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