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jaguar submarine
Hi folks just thought you all might be interested to hear that i managed to "superinduct" about 2-3 litres of water into my engine last night. as a result the old girl is not a happy camper and is refusing to do much of anything. anyone with any ideas on where to start drying her out ?
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Ouch. Presumably it was running, sucked up some water and stopped suddenly? Have you tried to turn it over since? Don't, if you haven't already!
Empty the inlet tract, plugs out, turn it over by hand and see what comes out. Or have you already done that? Guessing you must have done by the 2-3 litres bit...
A compression test is probably the next step.
Empty the inlet tract, plugs out, turn it over by hand and see what comes out. Or have you already done that? Guessing you must have done by the 2-3 litres bit...
A compression test is probably the next step.
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So what have you investigated so far? Any of the things I suggested above?
Don't run it at all for the moment! At the very least you'll need to change the air filter and the oil. You may find it hasn't actually ingested any water - your running issues might just be water something electrical, or a blocked air filter. If you have though, you're potentially looking at bent valves, broken rings...
Don't run it at all for the moment! At the very least you'll need to change the air filter and the oil. You may find it hasn't actually ingested any water - your running issues might just be water something electrical, or a blocked air filter. If you have though, you're potentially looking at bent valves, broken rings...
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checked the filters and such and just finished draining water out of the supercharger !! going to carry on through the engine and remove the plugs as you suggested and fingers crossed it will run once its put back together. just sourced another engine "just in case" £300 so not a huge deal thank god.
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Ziggy puts things rather well. Intake side, plugs and oil should always be the first things on the list if water ingestion is suspected.
"rather loud"... clattering or noisy exhaust? Your Cats would not have appreciated the sudden dunking, neither would anything belt driven.
Best of luck.
"rather loud"... clattering or noisy exhaust? Your Cats would not have appreciated the sudden dunking, neither would anything belt driven.
Best of luck.
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While things are apart, give the supercharger drive a spin by hand.
The reason for checking is that the drive has a spur gear arrangement. If the rotors had a lot of resistance to spinning, then the drive might be damaged resulting in the rotors being not in phase with each other. The replacements are not expensive though and can be found on ebay as kits.
The reason for checking is that the drive has a spur gear arrangement. If the rotors had a lot of resistance to spinning, then the drive might be damaged resulting in the rotors being not in phase with each other. The replacements are not expensive though and can be found on ebay as kits.
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well after following your suggestions guys i am still dead in the water so to speak. plugged her in and got a list of over 20 fault codes including crank sensor, ecu failure, gearbox failure and underfueling. got a jagtechie looking at it today for a more accurate read. as for the knob who caused it he is currently awaiting the bill for either a fix or a new car. cheers for all your help i will let you know how it turns out.
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Even better luck with his insurance. From experience, you caused the damage by choosing to drive too quickly into the flood and avoid the collision.
Whereas you should have allowed the accident to take place.
Unfair I know.
You'll need lots of witnesses to attest to the other guy's bad driving and your necessary avoiding action. Even then....
Hope you can clear the codes when the car is fully dried out, which will take some time and a nice warm heated garage. Lots of blown hot air.
These cars don't like damp electronics.
Whereas you should have allowed the accident to take place.
Unfair I know.
You'll need lots of witnesses to attest to the other guy's bad driving and your necessary avoiding action. Even then....
Hope you can clear the codes when the car is fully dried out, which will take some time and a nice warm heated garage. Lots of blown hot air.
These cars don't like damp electronics.
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I wouldn't be too worried about all of the codes for now - as above, water + electronics = a bit of a mess!
The big concern IMO is still whether enough water got into the combustion chamber to start causing serious mechanical damage. I'd hope that any garage would look into this before trying to address anything else...
That was my fear too.
The big concern IMO is still whether enough water got into the combustion chamber to start causing serious mechanical damage. I'd hope that any garage would look into this before trying to address anything else...
That was my fear too.
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Are you expecting it to be coming from him then rather than his insurance company? Sounds a lot more hopeful tbh!
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Certainly sounds likely to me. If it's a Jag specialist who's looking at it for you, I'd expect them to know about this sort of thing though. Do they have access to a spare CPS that they can swap in to test? It's a very easy job to swap it, but I'd still be reluctant to start buying parts (even if it's only £60 or so) when there could be terminal damage lurking deeper within...
ETA: an easy (but not necessarily conclusive) test for the CPS is to look at whether the rev counter is reading correctly when turning the engine over before it fires. Again, any Jag specialist worth their salt would know this though!
ETA: an easy (but not necessarily conclusive) test for the CPS is to look at whether the rev counter is reading correctly when turning the engine over before it fires. Again, any Jag specialist worth their salt would know this though!
Last edited by Ziggy; 11-28-2012 at 09:00 AM.
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