Jaguar X300 Mesh Grill
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In the real world, all X300 and X308 supercharged models were fitted with those
exact mesh grills.
They have the additional heat burden of the intercooler radiators.
Overheating is not a common characteristic that the R owners complain about.
As for aesthetics, the mesh grille is one of the key visual markers that makes the
R versions stand out as being more purposeful than the lesser models.
exact mesh grills.
They have the additional heat burden of the intercooler radiators.
Overheating is not a common characteristic that the R owners complain about.
As for aesthetics, the mesh grille is one of the key visual markers that makes the
R versions stand out as being more purposeful than the lesser models.
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As some of you may have noticed in previous post I am not a fan of mesh grills. As an Aeronautical engineer I can tell you for certain a mesh grill with reduce the airflow to some extent. And living in a very hot climate I would not consider one for either of my cars. Besides, I don't think they look all that great. But just IMHO.
As long as the airflow is sufficient, any more is irrelevant.
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Everyone has their own opinion on how the mesh grille looks, personally I think they look great and I really don't care what anyone else thinks!
What I am intrigued about is the lack of scientific evidence to the assertion that the mesh grille pattern somehow constricts air flow, if this was really the case I'm glad I don't own an XJR!
What I am intrigued about is the lack of scientific evidence to the assertion that the mesh grille pattern somehow constricts air flow, if this was really the case I'm glad I don't own an XJR!
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Everyone has their own opinion on how the mesh grille looks, personally I think they look great and I really don't care what anyone else thinks!
What I am intrigued about is the lack of scientific evidence to the assertion that the mesh grille pattern somehow constricts air flow, if this was really the case I'm glad I don't own an XJR!![Icon Naughty](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_naughty.gif)
What I am intrigued about is the lack of scientific evidence to the assertion that the mesh grille pattern somehow constricts air flow, if this was really the case I'm glad I don't own an XJR!
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and ignoring the effects of turbulence.
Don't know if it is true when comparing flutes to screens.
But real world experience suggests that XJR's don't suffer with the factory
mesh grill in place. Otherwise the forum would be full of tales of woe.
I picked up on the mesh grill when I started looking at purchasing a X300/X308
series vehicle. It didn't take long before any potential candidate without the
mesh grill was automatically crossed off the list. Of course that meant every
remaining candidate was a XJR
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Would be helpful if you shared the relevant aerodynamic data with us.
I am genuinely intrigued because many cars are fitted with mesh grilles, many from factory such as the XJR. In the absence of any conflicting data I'm happy to assume that Jaguar had it worked out.
I am genuinely intrigued because many cars are fitted with mesh grilles, many from factory such as the XJR. In the absence of any conflicting data I'm happy to assume that Jaguar had it worked out.
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I've had several club members buy from Mina and I've yet to be impressed with any of their products. If I opt for the mesh I'll wait to find one at the wreckers that's original Jaguar.
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I have one available complete with gasket.
It should be factory because it is part of a complete set from
a 1996 including the chrome grille surround. It also has the
factory plastic quarter turn studs. It is also more of a raw
stainless finish than the "bright stainless" quoted by Mina.
It also does not have those "nicks" seen in the wire of the
Mina detail picture of the mesh.
But, there are no identifying marks or part numbers to be
able to guarantee that it is indeed Jaguar.
The chrome grill surround is definitely a Jaguar X300 part.
While the lower mesh is definitely available, I would have
to mull over whether the upper chrome+mesh is available
depending on whether it fits a X308.
PM if interested.
It should be factory because it is part of a complete set from
a 1996 including the chrome grille surround. It also has the
factory plastic quarter turn studs. It is also more of a raw
stainless finish than the "bright stainless" quoted by Mina.
It also does not have those "nicks" seen in the wire of the
Mina detail picture of the mesh.
But, there are no identifying marks or part numbers to be
able to guarantee that it is indeed Jaguar.
The chrome grill surround is definitely a Jaguar X300 part.
While the lower mesh is definitely available, I would have
to mull over whether the upper chrome+mesh is available
depending on whether it fits a X308.
PM if interested.
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I know mine is available to registered members.
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But after my experience with their overpriced and cheaply made ($125) cold air intake that fell apart within a year of owning it. Plus all it is a cone filter and slightly bent elbow which could've been put together for less than $40 at an auto parts store.
So I'm sure their lower mesh grill wouldn't match the quality of the factory Jaguar mesh grill.
On another related note, I've thought about searching online for a universal mesh grill and cutting it to size...
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I honestly wouldn't bother with Mina, I too was looking into their mesh grills and a few other asthetic add ons for my cars from them.
But after my experience with their overpriced and cheaply made ($125) cold air intake that fell apart within a year of owning it. Plus all it is a cone filter and slightly bent elbow which could've been put together for less than $40 at an auto parts store.
So I'm sure their lower mesh grill wouldn't match the quality of the factory Jaguar mesh grill.
On another related note, I've thought about searching online for a universal mesh grill and cutting it to size...
But after my experience with their overpriced and cheaply made ($125) cold air intake that fell apart within a year of owning it. Plus all it is a cone filter and slightly bent elbow which could've been put together for less than $40 at an auto parts store.
So I'm sure their lower mesh grill wouldn't match the quality of the factory Jaguar mesh grill.
On another related note, I've thought about searching online for a universal mesh grill and cutting it to size...
You and I are on the same page there, had the same thoughts.
It wouldn't be very hard to mock up with cardboard then cut. And I've bought plenty of pre-cut specialty sheet metal and metal fabric online before. It's generally very affordable.
Not a priority project for me, and not sure I'll even bother. But that is probably a better option.
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For example - 3/8" opening, crimped, 12'x48" (make a couple), $55 + shipping - McMaster-Carr
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The welded cloth on the same page might be a better idea.
The factory item has a sheet metal rim about 3/16" all around to
keep the edge clean and to retain the rubber gasket that goes all
the way around. It also has three welded washers where the quarter
turn fasteners fit to hold the mesh.
The factory item has a sheet metal rim about 3/16" all around to
keep the edge clean and to retain the rubber gasket that goes all
the way around. It also has three welded washers where the quarter
turn fasteners fit to hold the mesh.
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