Options for lower radiator hose.
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I have a leak at the hose from the water pump to the water pipe at the clamp area. I thought tightening the clamp would help but it just made it worse. Looks like crud is building up under the hose also. I figure it just needs a new clamp and clean the crud but figuring since the car is 24 years old, might as well replace the hose. As well as the lower and upper hose while I’m in there.
I’ve heard complaints about the URO lower hose, but all I seem to find readily available are the Eurospare and URO hose. Anyone know if the Eurospare brand is reliable? Or am I better off just leaving the original on until it leaks and dealing with it later?
Also are the gaskets on the water rail known to leak? Should I replace them while I’m in there or not bother?
I’ve heard complaints about the URO lower hose, but all I seem to find readily available are the Eurospare and URO hose. Anyone know if the Eurospare brand is reliable? Or am I better off just leaving the original on until it leaks and dealing with it later?
Also are the gaskets on the water rail known to leak? Should I replace them while I’m in there or not bother?
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I'm inclined to agree with Jagboi; you may well be better off with the original. It galls me to say that; most of us have been trained to replace hoses every 10 years or so just on general principles. But, nowadays, it might end up being a backwards step.
In fairness and honesty I've never had a URO hose fail, personally. But URO, broadly, does not have the best reputation and some URO parts I've purchased were clearly of lower quality.
Eurospare has been a bit of a mystery to me for years. The name is owned owned by "Hotbray"; I think Eurospare does not exist to day as it might have 10-15 years ago.
https://www.hotbray.co.uk/about-us/
https://www.hotbray.co.uk/eurospare/
If you order Eurospare you may well end up with a URO part for all I know.
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Looks like if I take that secondary air pump off it may be a little easier to get in there.
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Water rail gaskets will leak. I've had it occur on 2 of 4 X300 NA AJ16's. You can get to and clean the water rail-to-b*st*rd hose nipple with the intake manifold in situ. Not so with the water rail gaskets, at least as far as my experience goes. Cut sandpaper into appropriate-width strips and use a back-and-forth sawing motion all 'round the water rail nipple.
I've had a Uro b*st*rd hose fail incredibly early, memory foggy, but like 3-6 months.
I've had a Uro b*st*rd hose fail incredibly early, memory foggy, but like 3-6 months.
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Water rail gaskets will leak. I've had it occur on 2 of 4 X300 NA AJ16's. You can get to and clean the water rail-to-b*st*rd hose nipple with the intake manifold in situ. Not so with the water rail gaskets, at least as far as my experience goes. Cut sandpaper into appropriate-width strips and use a back-and-forth sawing motion all 'round the water rail nipple.
I've had a Uro b*st*rd hose fail incredibly early, memory foggy, but like 3-6 months.
I've had a Uro b*st*rd hose fail incredibly early, memory foggy, but like 3-6 months.
Got it apart and cleaned, just waiting for the pump to rail hose to show up so I can put it back together.
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I'd wait. Cleaning the water rail wasn't all THAT difficult with the intake in place. The water rail gasket leaks I've had were significant, but not the gushers that deplete the whole cooling system like a 3-month old failed Uro b*st*rd hose.....people who "don't have far to go" and drive with the hose failure consequently "don't get too far." Whereas with the gasket leak, If you "don't have far to go" you will likely make it to your destination....or at least you can continue with a stop or two for topping up the coolant with distilled. And besides...I've got a '95 with 270k+ on the odometer that I've not had to change the gaskets on......
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I'd wait. Cleaning the water rail wasn't all THAT difficult with the intake in place. The water rail gasket leaks I've had were significant, but not the gushers that deplete the whole cooling system like a 3-month old failed Uro b*st*rd hose.....people who "don't have far to go" and drive with the hose failure consequently "don't get too far." Whereas with the gasket leak, If you "don't have far to go" you will likely make it to your destination....or at least you can continue with a stop or two for topping up the coolant with distilled. And besides...I've got a '95 with 270k+ on the odometer that I've not had to change the gaskets on......
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Yeah, I usually just use the lower radiator hose connection for drain/flush.
Checking records, I see I got my cars mixed up. The 270K '95 got water rail gaskets at 211K. The other one I did was about 110K. To be fair, although the other 2 X300's are at or just over 200K, I don't know their histories well enough to say if they may have already had a water rail change.
Checking records, I see I got my cars mixed up. The 270K '95 got water rail gaskets at 211K. The other one I did was about 110K. To be fair, although the other 2 X300's are at or just over 200K, I don't know their histories well enough to say if they may have already had a water rail change.
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Yeah, I usually just use the lower radiator hose connection for drain/flush.
Checking records, I see I got my cars mixed up. The 270K '95 got water rail gaskets at 211K. The other one I did was about 110K. To be fair, although the other 2 X300's are at or just over 200K, I don't know their histories well enough to say if they may have already had a water rail change.
Checking records, I see I got my cars mixed up. The 270K '95 got water rail gaskets at 211K. The other one I did was about 110K. To be fair, although the other 2 X300's are at or just over 200K, I don't know their histories well enough to say if they may have already had a water rail change.
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nope, put pressure tester on it and it leaks every so slightly. Took two screw drivers to try to tighten a little more by turning them in sync on the very edges of what’s left of the notch and it snapped. Guess I’ll have to get it out and try to find one. May have to try to find one in a scrap yard.
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