Some assistance or advice please
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Some assistance or advice please
Hi guys
i am new to the forum, so hello everyone, im John.
I live in the UK.
I have just purchased a 1996 XJS Daimler Hearse as i am about to start my own funeral home business
when i purchased it, the seller told me the door lock on occasion would not unlock and he had the window half open.
The drive home was considerable and the car ran perfectly, not missing a beat and it was late at night when i got home.
I totally forgot about the issue mentioned with the door lock, locked it up and now cannot get into it.
The key fits the lock ok and appears to go all the way in, but although it turns in the barrel and there is some upward movement on the inside door button, it will not raise enough to open the door
i have tried some wd-40 in the vain hope also cursed and asked for divine intervention, all to no avail - it lifts about half way up
Needless to say this is very inconvenient and i am desperate for help without damaging the car
The remote does not seem to work, though it lights up and i tried new batteries, it appears to do nothing and as i have parked it close to a wall, i cannot open the rear boot even if it did unlock.
The passenger door does not have any key hole to put a key into.
It could not have come at a worse time for me in honesty with the new business about to start, can anyone help or advise me on what is best to do =0(
regards and thanks in advance
John
i am new to the forum, so hello everyone, im John.
I live in the UK.
I have just purchased a 1996 XJS Daimler Hearse as i am about to start my own funeral home business
when i purchased it, the seller told me the door lock on occasion would not unlock and he had the window half open.
The drive home was considerable and the car ran perfectly, not missing a beat and it was late at night when i got home.
I totally forgot about the issue mentioned with the door lock, locked it up and now cannot get into it.
The key fits the lock ok and appears to go all the way in, but although it turns in the barrel and there is some upward movement on the inside door button, it will not raise enough to open the door
i have tried some wd-40 in the vain hope also cursed and asked for divine intervention, all to no avail - it lifts about half way up
Needless to say this is very inconvenient and i am desperate for help without damaging the car
The remote does not seem to work, though it lights up and i tried new batteries, it appears to do nothing and as i have parked it close to a wall, i cannot open the rear boot even if it did unlock.
The passenger door does not have any key hole to put a key into.
It could not have come at a worse time for me in honesty with the new business about to start, can anyone help or advise me on what is best to do =0(
regards and thanks in advance
John
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TheUndertaker (12-02-2016)
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Thank you GGG
I'm afraid I am not a jaguar expert, I do apologise.
My lasting memories of jaguars are of my father in his red T bar XJS, I think it was a 5.3 V12 engine ?
My dad really loved his jags and he had half a dozen while I was growing up.
I think it's that, that pushed me towards getting one for the funeral business.
I'm gutted I've locked myself out of it.
Here is a pic or the inside of the door I got earlier this week
I'm afraid I am not a jaguar expert, I do apologise.
My lasting memories of jaguars are of my father in his red T bar XJS, I think it was a 5.3 V12 engine ?
My dad really loved his jags and he had half a dozen while I was growing up.
I think it's that, that pushed me towards getting one for the funeral business.
I'm gutted I've locked myself out of it.
Here is a pic or the inside of the door I got earlier this week
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OK, try this:
Get some parcel strapping - that nylon/plastic type strip about half an inch wide that is ratcheted up and clipped around parcels. About 3 feet of it.
Double it up and push the looped bit through between the door seal and the metal door frame.
Then turn the key to raise the pip inside as far as it will go, and by differentially pushing and pulling the ends of the strapping still in your hands, get the loop over the pip.
Pull the pip up by pulling up the tape towards the door top
Get some parcel strapping - that nylon/plastic type strip about half an inch wide that is ratcheted up and clipped around parcels. About 3 feet of it.
Double it up and push the looped bit through between the door seal and the metal door frame.
Then turn the key to raise the pip inside as far as it will go, and by differentially pushing and pulling the ends of the strapping still in your hands, get the loop over the pip.
Pull the pip up by pulling up the tape towards the door top
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OK, try this:
Get some parcel strapping - that nylon/plastic type strip about half an inch wide that is ratcheted up and clipped. About 3 feet of it.
Double it up and push the loop through between the door seal and the metal door frame.
Then turn the key to raise the pip inside as far as it will go, and by differentially pushing and pulling the ends of the strapping still in your hands get the loop over the pip.
Pull the pip up by pulling up the tape Towards the door top
Get some parcel strapping - that nylon/plastic type strip about half an inch wide that is ratcheted up and clipped. About 3 feet of it.
Double it up and push the loop through between the door seal and the metal door frame.
Then turn the key to raise the pip inside as far as it will go, and by differentially pushing and pulling the ends of the strapping still in your hands get the loop over the pip.
Pull the pip up by pulling up the tape Towards the door top
I'll let you know how I get on.
I'll have to try and get it fixed as well once it's open *crossing my fingers
Is it an easy fix ? Is there anyone you can recommend if it isn't to take it for a fix ?
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I am suspecting the lock barrel is turning in the handle assembly and can't turn the actuating rods enough to trip the lock mechanism. There is a screw that holds the lock barrel to the door handle surround and that may have worked out.
What you might try doing is pressing on the keyhole surround with a screwdriver or a pair of pliers and then try turning the key? See if the whole surround is moving, or not - it shouldn't. Other option is a small pair of pliers in the keyhole after you have inserted the key, the pliers can keep the surround from turning, and then turn the key.
Illustration here: Lock Barrel - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Classic Parts UK
I suspect the car was built by Wilcox, they are one of the big converters to hearses. They are in Chalfont St Peter, and have a service division I believe. Hearse for Sale | Limousine for Sale | Wilcox Limousines
The door has been modified from a standard car's door, I have no idea if the locks have been changed, or remains standard.
EDIT: Instead of surround, I really mean the lock barrel shouldn't turn when turning the key. I hope you know what I mean after looking at the parts diagram.
What you might try doing is pressing on the keyhole surround with a screwdriver or a pair of pliers and then try turning the key? See if the whole surround is moving, or not - it shouldn't. Other option is a small pair of pliers in the keyhole after you have inserted the key, the pliers can keep the surround from turning, and then turn the key.
Illustration here: Lock Barrel - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Classic Parts UK
I suspect the car was built by Wilcox, they are one of the big converters to hearses. They are in Chalfont St Peter, and have a service division I believe. Hearse for Sale | Limousine for Sale | Wilcox Limousines
The door has been modified from a standard car's door, I have no idea if the locks have been changed, or remains standard.
EDIT: Instead of surround, I really mean the lock barrel shouldn't turn when turning the key. I hope you know what I mean after looking at the parts diagram.
Last edited by Jagboi64; 12-02-2016 at 03:23 PM. Reason: clarity
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TheUndertaker (12-02-2016)
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I am suspecting the lock barrel is turning in the handle assembly and can't turn the actuating rods enough to trip the lock mechanism. There is a screw that holds the lock barrel to the door handle surround and that may have worked out.
What you might try doing is pressing on the keyhole surround with a screwdriver or a pair of pliers and then try turning the key? See if the whole surround is moving, or not - it shouldn't. Other option is a small pair of pliers in the keyhole after you have inserted the key, the pliers can keep the surround from turning, and then turn the key.
Illustration here: Lock Barrel - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Classic Parts UK
I suspect the car was built by Wilcox, they are one of the big converters to hearses. They are in Chalfont St Peter, and have a service division I believe. Hearse for Sale | Limousine for Sale | Wilcox Limousines
The door has been modified from a standard car's door, I have no idea if the locks have been changed, or remains standard.
What you might try doing is pressing on the keyhole surround with a screwdriver or a pair of pliers and then try turning the key? See if the whole surround is moving, or not - it shouldn't. Other option is a small pair of pliers in the keyhole after you have inserted the key, the pliers can keep the surround from turning, and then turn the key.
Illustration here: Lock Barrel - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Classic Parts UK
I suspect the car was built by Wilcox, they are one of the big converters to hearses. They are in Chalfont St Peter, and have a service division I believe. Hearse for Sale | Limousine for Sale | Wilcox Limousines
The door has been modified from a standard car's door, I have no idea if the locks have been changed, or remains standard.
I do hope it works for me, I will update you with the results.
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That series of Jaguar is called X300, and the boot locks were notorious for not working after long periods of disuse when people only used the remote. It would take spraying some penetrating oil in the lock ( WD40 isn't a penetrating oil!) and working the key back and forth many, many times would get them to loosen up. I like Screwloose, but there are others. https://www.amazon.com/CRC-Screwloos.../dp/B000CCMLCQ
You might be in for a wrist workout!
You might be in for a wrist workout!
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...well, it gets interesting, the original exterior Jaguar body on this car is an X308 not X300, which one can tell from the headlights, running/turn lighting, grille and bumper trim among other things.
But it appears from the photo of the door, and what little I can see through the front windscreen that the interior is an X300.
It would be interesting to know which engine is in this car, the inline 6 or V8.
None of that helps with the lock issue, so my apologies... just an interesting observation of the combination of models on this example of what we call "pro cars" (professional services car conversions such as ambulances, hearses, etc) here in the USA. Pro car collectors have their own following and there are some pretty interesting cars from this niche out there.
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But it appears from the photo of the door, and what little I can see through the front windscreen that the interior is an X300.
It would be interesting to know which engine is in this car, the inline 6 or V8.
None of that helps with the lock issue, so my apologies... just an interesting observation of the combination of models on this example of what we call "pro cars" (professional services car conversions such as ambulances, hearses, etc) here in the USA. Pro car collectors have their own following and there are some pretty interesting cars from this niche out there.
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Could have been a used car that was converted to a hearse and the bumpers upgraded at the time.
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