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Hi all this is a place is going to record and document my stainless steel header and collector build .
my methods leverage basic tools and mainly a lot of effort . This first post is really a mass picture upload my reply will go into more detail . Hand cut 10mm steel flanges . I actually made these in a covid lockdown out of scrap Old cylinder head for use as a jig makes this project possible Collector templates Trimming the ss 304 pieces Looking for that fit up Getting a handle on purge tig welding these Chopped those off Having a play on the bench setup Making the port transitions Seeing how it could look
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Graham
Thankyou kindly for fixing that.
Right so some of the details i didn't fully explain the first go around are below
Why mild steel flanges ?
Milling these flat after fabrication is going to be a tricky setup. With my belt sander it will cut the mild steel nicely for a good flat surface. Welding Mild to 304 is common practice using the correct 309L filler wire.
Why the original Downpipe ?
Its more a question of process and the stages to build these headers. Step 1 is to replace the upstream Cats with straight tube and place V-bands connections near the O2 port locations. This is so i can run the original cast manifolds while pouring hours of work into the new headers. Before the cast manifolds get installed its necessary to place a collector on the v-band nice and secure and build a jig to the cylinder head.
Now i have the ability to build the manifolds on the bench. Test fitting often will be necessary a neat feature is that a cast manifold can support the downpipe while i work on the other 3 cylinders and vice versa - a little like the image shown above where I'm holding a collector.
What Design am I going with ?
By far the nicest headers i have found are the Dr Jag ones from Australia, they have a particular tidy balanced look about them and it appears attention has been made to keep the primary lengths as close as possible the way i have constructed my collecters is in line with these.
Next up is the simply performance headers - these look to be the most simple to build , a feature of these is they retain a somewhat standard looking downpipe. For reasons stated above id like to meld this feature with the primary arrangement of the Dr Jag Headers
Last up is the headers i found on this forum - sort of a Rams horn Hi rise design - the collector looks to be the worst of the 3 images shown. The hi rise is kind of cool but i think it will cause heat issues with the rocker cover and or the bonnet. Dr Jag Headers - note collectors Simply Performance Not sure but a member on here had them made i think.
There are many topics that mention downpipe modifications but I’ve never actually seen what anyone has done .
You can see the V band flanges added to where the cats were cut off . The catalyst converts actually have a lot of offset in them to account for . Some crafty bends and both are landed Many test fits to get things sitting right Old cylinder head for welding jig makes life easy .
When I sat a straight edge on each once it rocked considerably. The exhaust gaskets were not leaking and no studs had snapped yet. It took quite a lot of work on the belt sander linisher to get the faces to clean up .
for those with not cracked manifolds of an unknown origin It it might be worh it to have yours machined or linished and they might last a lot longer . This was a very quick first pass , the shiny spot is high and it visually shows how much it pulled . It’s surprising it wasn’t leaking - a credit to the multi layer gaskets . These need more work , each end still isn’t fully cleaned up after what felt like a long time on my linisher.
Last up is the headers i found on this forum - sort of a Rams horn Hi rise design - the collector looks to be the worst of the 3 images shown. The hi rise is kind of cool but i think it will cause heat issues with the rocker cover and or the bonnet.
Not sure but a member on here had them made i think.
I’ve got a couple of runners mocked up in position looking quite tidy . I’m doing my own thing here but as you’d expect it follows a similar path to what others have done
I have finalized the mockup of the right side manifold , the first runner that goes near the block and the power steering was quite tricky but the placement is now correct. It took a few attempts at getting the collectors to align nicely with the downpipe, I've added a flex bellows to give a little bit of movement between the manifolds and keep things a little bit independent.
The mockup / fitup stage is complete and its time to start the task of purge welding everything.
OE Downpipe, design is nice, has a good heat shield. No reason not to use it again. Collector placement near the firewall and block Collector placement near steering Mockup how it looks and fits