Traction Control
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Traction Control
After noticing the TRAC OFF light on my dash, I was pleasantly surprised that such a feature was apparently available and did a bit of googling.
So, I have a few quick questions I'm assuming haven't been asked before:
A) I'm assuming that Traction Control was standard on all 1997 XJ6. Is this correct?
B) If it was standard, then I'm assuming the right most button (Next to Reset / Odometer) was the button to turn the Traction Control off, but was only available on XJR's. Is this also correct?
C) If I am right on both counts, then how difficult would it be to modify an XJ6 / XJ6L / XJ6 VDP to have the feature to turn Traction Control off?
Keep in mind, I really, really like having Traction Control, and it comes in very handy use, but I still wouldn't mind - If it wasn't much hassle and wouldn't damage the car - to be able to turn it off on the one or two very, very rare occassions I would want it off (Which would probably be never).
So, I have a few quick questions I'm assuming haven't been asked before:
A) I'm assuming that Traction Control was standard on all 1997 XJ6. Is this correct?
B) If it was standard, then I'm assuming the right most button (Next to Reset / Odometer) was the button to turn the Traction Control off, but was only available on XJR's. Is this also correct?
C) If I am right on both counts, then how difficult would it be to modify an XJ6 / XJ6L / XJ6 VDP to have the feature to turn Traction Control off?
Keep in mind, I really, really like having Traction Control, and it comes in very handy use, but I still wouldn't mind - If it wasn't much hassle and wouldn't damage the car - to be able to turn it off on the one or two very, very rare occassions I would want it off (Which would probably be never).
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After noticing the TRAC OFF light on my dash, I was pleasantly surprised that such a feature was apparently available and did a bit of googling.
So, I have a few quick questions I'm assuming haven't been asked before:
A) I'm assuming that Traction Control was standard on all 1997 XJ6. Is this correct?
So, I have a few quick questions I'm assuming haven't been asked before:
A) I'm assuming that Traction Control was standard on all 1997 XJ6. Is this correct?
No, not correct. In the USA I think the only model having it as standard was the XJR. It was an option on others.....although I suspect that most VDPs were ordered with it. I suspect fewer standard XJ6s were ordered with it.
B) If it was standard, then I'm assuming the right most button (Next to Reset / Odometer) was the button to turn the Traction Control off, but was only available on XJR's. Is this also correct?
Hmmmm.
If you have traction control you should have the "trac" button, regardless of model
C) If I am right on both counts, then how difficult would it be to modify an XJ6 / XJ6L / XJ6 VDP to have the feature to turn Traction Control off?
Keep in mind, I really, really like having Traction Control, and it comes in very handy use, but I still wouldn't mind - If it wasn't much hassle and wouldn't damage the car - to be able to turn it off on the one or two very, very rare occassions I would want it off (Which would probably be never).
Keep in mind, I really, really like having Traction Control, and it comes in very handy use, but I still wouldn't mind - If it wasn't much hassle and wouldn't damage the car - to be able to turn it off on the one or two very, very rare occassions I would want it off (Which would probably be never).
Are you *sure* that you have it? if you don't have the button you don't have traction control.....I'm 99.9% sure on this.
All of the instrument clusters have the TRAC OFF icon, even if the car didn't have traction control. I suspect yours is glowing due to a glitch of some sort.
Others will chime in
Cheers
DD
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No, not correct. In the USA I think the only model having it as standard was the XJR. It was an option on others.....although I suspect that most VDPs were ordered with it. I suspect fewer standard XJ6s were ordered with it.
Hmmmm.
If you have traction control you should have the "trac" button, regardless of model
Are you *sure* that you have it? if you don't have the button you don't have traction control.....I'm 99.9% sure on this.
All of the instrument clusters have the TRAC OFF icon, even if the car didn't have traction control. I suspect yours is glowing due to a glitch of some sort.
Others will chime in
Cheers
DD
Hmmmm.
If you have traction control you should have the "trac" button, regardless of model
Are you *sure* that you have it? if you don't have the button you don't have traction control.....I'm 99.9% sure on this.
All of the instrument clusters have the TRAC OFF icon, even if the car didn't have traction control. I suspect yours is glowing due to a glitch of some sort.
Others will chime in
Cheers
DD
Although I suppose if I ever come across a donor XJR, it'd be a start. By an incredible coincidence, one of my neighbors got his hands on an especially beat up XJR (was -NOT- garage kept). So maybe I can converse with him sometime on the subject.
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After noticing the TRAC OFF light on my dash, I was pleasantly surprised that such a feature was apparently available and did a bit of googling.
So, I have a few quick questions I'm assuming haven't been asked before:
A) I'm assuming that Traction Control was standard on all 1997 XJ6. Is this correct?
B) If it was standard, then I'm assuming the right most button (Next to Reset / Odometer) was the button to turn the Traction Control off, but was only available on XJR's. Is this also correct?
C) If I am right on both counts, then how difficult would it be to modify an XJ6 / XJ6L / XJ6 VDP to have the feature to turn Traction Control off?
Keep in mind, I really, really like having Traction Control, and it comes in very handy use, but I still wouldn't mind - If it wasn't much hassle and wouldn't damage the car - to be able to turn it off on the one or two very, very rare occassions I would want it off (Which would probably be never).
So, I have a few quick questions I'm assuming haven't been asked before:
A) I'm assuming that Traction Control was standard on all 1997 XJ6. Is this correct?
B) If it was standard, then I'm assuming the right most button (Next to Reset / Odometer) was the button to turn the Traction Control off, but was only available on XJR's. Is this also correct?
C) If I am right on both counts, then how difficult would it be to modify an XJ6 / XJ6L / XJ6 VDP to have the feature to turn Traction Control off?
Keep in mind, I really, really like having Traction Control, and it comes in very handy use, but I still wouldn't mind - If it wasn't much hassle and wouldn't damage the car - to be able to turn it off on the one or two very, very rare occassions I would want it off (Which would probably be never).
Sorry, adding it is not practical. It is a function integrated into the engine management and electronic brake system. It's way more than an actuator and different cables.
I agree.......what a feature, wonderful invention.
Cheers,
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Valium.Skies (01-23-2012)
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Traction Control wires
As long as Traction Control is being discussed I want to mention that on the Traction Control Actuator(MNA5930AA), at least on the X300, the two wire's insulation on the unit just crumbles eventually and the wires short out. I have seen this happen to several. On my own the ABS and Traction Warning lights went on. Eventually I found that the wires on bottom of the unit had shorted, but the upper end looked good. Some I have seen are bad at the top and bottom. It may be due to UV since the insulation under the black wire tube seems to be ok. I have not disassembled the unit to rewire it. I hope that the shorting did not permanently hurt something. I have not seen this problem mentioned and wanted to bring it to someones attention. Anyone with an X300 and traction control should be aware of this problem.
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As long as Traction Control is being discussed I want to mention that on the Traction Control Actuator(MNA5930AA), at least on the X300, the two wire's insulation on the unit just crumbles eventually and the wires short out. I have seen this happen to several. On my own the ABS and Traction Warning lights went on. Eventually I found that the wires on bottom of the unit had shorted, but the upper end looked good. Some I have seen are bad at the top and bottom. It may be due to UV since the insulation under the black wire tube seems to be ok. I have not disassembled the unit to rewire it. I hope that the shorting did not permanently hurt something. I have not seen this problem mentioned and wanted to bring it to someones attention. Anyone with an X300 and traction control should be aware of this problem.
My trac fail light is still on and I don't think the uninsulated wires had anything to do with it. I had my ABS module rebuilt and the ABS light went away but not the trac fail. Is there some way of re-setting the traction control function?
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No, not correct. In the USA I think the only model having it as standard was the XJR. It was an option on others.....although I suspect that most VDPs were ordered with it. I suspect fewer standard XJ6s were ordered with it.
Hmmmm.
If you have traction control you should have the "trac" button, regardless of model
Are you *sure* that you have it? if you don't have the button you don't have traction control.....I'm 99.9% sure on this.
All of the instrument clusters have the TRAC OFF icon, even if the car didn't have traction control. I suspect yours is glowing due to a glitch of some sort.
Others will chime in
Cheers
DD
Hmmmm.
If you have traction control you should have the "trac" button, regardless of model
Are you *sure* that you have it? if you don't have the button you don't have traction control.....I'm 99.9% sure on this.
All of the instrument clusters have the TRAC OFF icon, even if the car didn't have traction control. I suspect yours is glowing due to a glitch of some sort.
Others will chime in
Cheers
DD
I may be mistaken but this is what my friend and i concluded.
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To verify......
Is the traction control unit present and accounted for in the engine bay? Item #1 in the picture below....
Brake Actuator Cable Assembly-Traction Control - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Heritage Parts UK
Cheers
DD
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My 95 standard XJ6 has a TRAC button on the right pod. Perhaps your pod was replaced somewhere along the way.
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Attached is a picture of the Traction Control Actuator Doug referred to.
For North American models, here's how it went:
1995 and 1996
XJ6 and VDP --- Optional, came with the All-Weather Package
XJ12 and XJR --- Standard
1997
XJ6, XJ6L and VDP --- Optional, came with the All-Weather Package
XJR --- Standard
Cheers,
For North American models, here's how it went:
1995 and 1996
XJ6 and VDP --- Optional, came with the All-Weather Package
XJ12 and XJR --- Standard
1997
XJ6, XJ6L and VDP --- Optional, came with the All-Weather Package
XJR --- Standard
Cheers,
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Ok thanks. I broke the accelerator cable (plastic part) that runs to it and can't find a replacement one. It is no longer available from Jaguar and there are not many XJR's being parted out I guess. I was thinking that it might be easier to just delete it but I really don't want a light on all the time either.
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Perfect!
You beat me to it!
Yeah, I think I'd personally prefer the ability to interactively enable or defeat it with the switch versus trying to remove such an integral system. I suspect it is more complicated than just removing the 'hardware' to get it to behave properly.
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Ok thanks. I broke the accelerator cable (plastic part) that runs to it and can't find a replacement one. It is no longer available from Jaguar and there are not many XJR's being parted out I guess. I was thinking that it might be easier to just delete it but I really don't want a light on all the time either.
Everyday XJ is steadily tearing cars down for parts...
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davidboger (01-06-2018)
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Admittedly, I'm not sure. And really, in hindsight, I have no reason to believe I -did- have a traction control system other than seeing that light right as you start the engine up. And if it doesn't, It'd probably be hellish to try to put one in.
Although I suppose if I ever come across a donor XJR, it'd be a start. By an incredible coincidence, one of my neighbors got his hands on an especially beat up XJR (was -NOT- garage kept). So maybe I can converse with him sometime on the subject.
Although I suppose if I ever come across a donor XJR, it'd be a start. By an incredible coincidence, one of my neighbors got his hands on an especially beat up XJR (was -NOT- garage kept). So maybe I can converse with him sometime on the subject.
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if you take it off, i will buy it from you,(depending on how much you want for it, im a low income Jag owner, lol), the plastic piece broke off mine and I'm sitting here with no transportation now.