X300 XJR gear change at low revs in sport mode.
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X300 XJR gear change at low revs in sport mode.
Hi all
my apologies if this is covered elsewhere…
I have a 1996 XJR recently fitted Andy Bracket.
I took it for a good run yesterday and noticed that in sport mode with my foot buried in the carpet, it upshift to the next gear at around 4300 revs.
I’ve screwed in the kick down switch behind the accelerator pedal all the way in towards the floor.
I’ve also ajdusted the cables under the bonnet (tc and throttle) to take up any slack, but then got a high tick over, so backed them off again till my idle is around 800 rpm.
can anyone advise me on how I can see my car reach the red line?
Many thanks
my apologies if this is covered elsewhere…
I have a 1996 XJR recently fitted Andy Bracket.
I took it for a good run yesterday and noticed that in sport mode with my foot buried in the carpet, it upshift to the next gear at around 4300 revs.
I’ve screwed in the kick down switch behind the accelerator pedal all the way in towards the floor.
I’ve also ajdusted the cables under the bonnet (tc and throttle) to take up any slack, but then got a high tick over, so backed them off again till my idle is around 800 rpm.
can anyone advise me on how I can see my car reach the red line?
Many thanks
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#5
vice versa
sport starts in 1st and normal in 2nd.
http://jagrepair.com/images/Training...s/200_1996.pdf (has lot of info about the workings of the auto gearboxes)
NORMAL Normal mode provides economy operation by causing the transmission to upshift at lower engine speeds and throttle openings. Start-off occurs in second gear unless the accelerator is depressed to the kickdown position. High speed performance is available as required. SPORT Sport mode allows the engine power to be used to its full potential at all times. Start-off occurs in first gear and upshifts and kickdown are tailored to performance requirements.
sport starts in 1st and normal in 2nd.
http://jagrepair.com/images/Training...s/200_1996.pdf (has lot of info about the workings of the auto gearboxes)
NORMAL Normal mode provides economy operation by causing the transmission to upshift at lower engine speeds and throttle openings. Start-off occurs in second gear unless the accelerator is depressed to the kickdown position. High speed performance is available as required. SPORT Sport mode allows the engine power to be used to its full potential at all times. Start-off occurs in first gear and upshifts and kickdown are tailored to performance requirements.
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On the later models of X300s which does not include mine ( normally asperated 1996 VIN 755XXX with mine including traction control ) there is a throttle cable adjustment ( different cable makeup ) between the traction control actuator and the throttle body
There was some factory documentation on this cable adjustment posted in the past on this forum
I bring this up to say I personally would not touch this adjustment unless fully understanding the effects of this adjustment
It may only effect your idle speed which you are fortunate to have correct on your different SC engine and may not have any effect on your shift points
The document passed through contributor CDMA that I don't think is active anymore, but I may have it saved somewhere on my computer
The more common transmission on the X300 ( ZF4HP24 ) is a Bosch transmission ECU unit off my memory
There are 2 speed sensors inside your GM transmission and in the end you may be looking at a on the transmission body connector clean and someone did find his / her transmission ECU connector not fully connected
These 2 sensors should read the same fundamental resistance value compared to each other , and are inductors ( probably 1300 ohms )
The transmission ECU is behind the glove box almost to the foot fwd vertical wall on the very bottem , ribbon connector pointing down so easy to get to
There was some factory documentation on this cable adjustment posted in the past on this forum
I bring this up to say I personally would not touch this adjustment unless fully understanding the effects of this adjustment
It may only effect your idle speed which you are fortunate to have correct on your different SC engine and may not have any effect on your shift points
The document passed through contributor CDMA that I don't think is active anymore, but I may have it saved somewhere on my computer
The more common transmission on the X300 ( ZF4HP24 ) is a Bosch transmission ECU unit off my memory
There are 2 speed sensors inside your GM transmission and in the end you may be looking at a on the transmission body connector clean and someone did find his / her transmission ECU connector not fully connected
These 2 sensors should read the same fundamental resistance value compared to each other , and are inductors ( probably 1300 ohms )
The transmission ECU is behind the glove box almost to the foot fwd vertical wall on the very bottem , ribbon connector pointing down so easy to get to
Last edited by Parker 7; 10-12-2023 at 09:54 PM.
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On the later models of X300s which does not include mine ( normally asperated 1996 VIN 755XXX with mine including traction control ) there is a throttle cable adjustment ( different cable makeup ) between the traction control actuator and the throttle body
There was some factory documentation on this cable adjustment posted in the past on this forum
I bring this up to say I personally would not touch this adjustment unless fully understanding the effects of this adjustment
It may only effect your idle speed which you are fortunate to have correct on your different SC engine and may not have any effect on your shift points
The document passed through contributor CDMA that I don't think is active anymore, but I may have it saved somewhere on my computer
The more common transmission on the X300 ( ZF4HP24 ) is a Bosch transmission ECU unit off my memory
There are 2 speed sensors inside your GM transmission and in the end you may be looking at a on the transmission body connector clean and someone did find his / her transmission ECU connector not fully connected
These 2 sensors should read the same fundamental resistance value compared to each other , and are inductors ( probably 1300 ohms )
The transmission ECU is behind the glove box almost to the foot fwd vertical wall on the very bottem , ribbon connector pointing down so easy to get to
There was some factory documentation on this cable adjustment posted in the past on this forum
I bring this up to say I personally would not touch this adjustment unless fully understanding the effects of this adjustment
It may only effect your idle speed which you are fortunate to have correct on your different SC engine and may not have any effect on your shift points
The document passed through contributor CDMA that I don't think is active anymore, but I may have it saved somewhere on my computer
The more common transmission on the X300 ( ZF4HP24 ) is a Bosch transmission ECU unit off my memory
There are 2 speed sensors inside your GM transmission and in the end you may be looking at a on the transmission body connector clean and someone did find his / her transmission ECU connector not fully connected
These 2 sensors should read the same fundamental resistance value compared to each other , and are inductors ( probably 1300 ohms )
The transmission ECU is behind the glove box almost to the foot fwd vertical wall on the very bottem , ribbon connector pointing down so easy to get to
thanks for all the info.
mine is also a 1996.
i have previously seen some workshop instructions on here that went along the lines of… “slacken off cables-measure 0.2mm on butterfly etc..”. But to do this looks like i beed to remove the supercharger elbow… ill be honest, im scared to do this.
thanks again
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One check you can do easily is your shift points in the normal mode that would say somewhat your 2 speed sensors a functioning corrrectly
At 4000 Rpm the signal is a sign wave or square wave , at 5000 it is a more compressed wave that has more peaks per unit of time
A perfect signal can be discerned correctly ( or not ) and a imperfect signal or imperfect dicertion ...............
Grounds cleaning relating to the tramsmission ECU , there is a dedicated ground strap on the engine ECU
The transmission and engine cross talk on a wire as they dance together to coordinate their activities
There are a few Jaguar TSBs on you GM 80E transmission on your SC model related to shifting issues and the upgraded transmission has the Orange dot marking mentioned in the paperwork
I do not have the GM transmission
See section 8
JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
At 4000 Rpm the signal is a sign wave or square wave , at 5000 it is a more compressed wave that has more peaks per unit of time
A perfect signal can be discerned correctly ( or not ) and a imperfect signal or imperfect dicertion ...............
Grounds cleaning relating to the tramsmission ECU , there is a dedicated ground strap on the engine ECU
The transmission and engine cross talk on a wire as they dance together to coordinate their activities
There are a few Jaguar TSBs on you GM 80E transmission on your SC model related to shifting issues and the upgraded transmission has the Orange dot marking mentioned in the paperwork
I do not have the GM transmission
See section 8
JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
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