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Old 06-18-2012, 03:52 PM
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Like most of you out there, yje headliner over the back seats is sagging (1995 XJ6 VDP)

Questions:

1 - does anyboby know which glue to use (resisting high sun heat)

2 - Has anyone tried to re glue the existiong headliner by injecting some kind of glue (with a syringe for example),

Thanks for your answers

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Old 06-18-2012, 04:28 PM
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Claude - I'm in the same boat. It's not the glue that gave way, it's the foam backing on the headliner. Regluing my work, nothing to lose but the cost of the glue.

But, armed with my 50%-off coupon at JoAnn fabrics, I bought 3 yards of headliner ($24). I'll use Lock-tite's spray contact adhesive, light coats as not to melt the foam, and just replace it, along with recovering the visors to match.
 
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I went to one of those craft stores and bought little cloth buttons ( ? ) with
metal prongs and used 'em to give the headliner an 'upholstered' look.
Yeah, it ain't cricket but it works and nobody who doesn't know these cars would know the diff!
Hope the pic comes out
 
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I went to one of those craft stores and bought little cloth buttons ( ? ) with
metal prongs and used 'em to give the headliner an 'upholstered' look.
Yeah, it ain't cricket but it works and nobody who doesn't know these cars would know the diff!
Hope the pic comes out
Hi

I like this idea and it looks neat

Can you give a bit more details about thse "buttons" ?

How did you "fix" them, glue or something else?

Do you have a pic of one of them?

Thanks

Claude
 
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these button remind me of the little buttons that held the arm chair covers on at Granma's house. They were plastic buttons with a spiral pin on them. Just twist them in.

 
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Originally Posted by jagclaude
Like most of you out there, yje headliner over the back seats is sagging (1995 XJ6 VDP)

Questions:

1 - does anyboby know which glue to use (resisting high sun heat)

2 - Has anyone tried to re glue the existiong headliner by injecting some kind of glue (with a syringe for example),

Thanks for your answers

Claude
Durham NC USA

1995 XJ6 VDP
1991 Audi 100
I will be repairing my headliner when time permits and was considering replacing the original foam liner with a differnt kind of foam material, called Etha Foam, which is easy to work, stick, bend, as it's pretty much unbreakable and I have used it in the past for similar applications. Another approach is to remove the original foam liner and "paint" it with a 50/50 solution of PVA adhesive and water. This will dry to a hard film, thus sealing the foam and ensuring that it accepts the spray adhesive (upholstery contact adhesive) without melting the foam in the process. Just an option worth considering.
 
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sogood
Another approach is to remove the original foam liner and "paint" it with a 50/50 solution of PVA adhesive and water. This will dry to a hard film, thus sealing the foam and ensuring that it accepts the spray adhesive (upholstery contact adhesive) without melting the foam in the process. Just an option worth considering.
I always have PVA in the gun, but I'd rather just spray a few light coats of adhesive. Or, just use 3M 74, foam fast adhesive.
 
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dear MGB4TIM

Where did you find those "twist" buttons ?

Went to Michael's this AM and when I asked for that they looked at me like if I was a dinosaur :-) (which I am almost :-))
 
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I came across a kit for ~$50 and instructions for recovering an X308 headliner. I assume the same procedure will work on the X300.

Link: 1998 Jaguar XJ8 headliner removal, recovering and replacement instructions.

I think I'm going to try the push-in button route this year and maybe next year I'll have a go at recovering with this kit.
 
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Hi

I like this idea and it looks neat

Can you give a bit more details about thse "buttons" ?

How did you "fix" them, glue or something else?

Do you have a pic of one of them?

Thanks

Claude
Nope. No glue or anything-just kind of shoved 'em in and they've held.
I'll have to go by the store and take a pic as I can't remember enough details to give you.
I'll try to do it today.
 
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The buttons are called "saaggy stoppers" you can get them at pep boys, they come 8 to a pack for about $3.50.
 
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Default Here are the ones I used...

Again, I must pray that the pic comes out.
I think it's a 'Joann's' craft store...sumpin' like that, anyway.
And I just pressed them hard into the headliner.
Of course I did kind of press with my finger to see what configuration and how many of these BRADS ( they're called ) to use so it looks like they're supposed to be there.
Hope this helps.
BTW, they have 'em in a fleur de lis (sp?) or even crosses if you want to keep the vampires out( Or if you're Christian ).
ANYWAY, there are several styles to choose from.
I was a bit trepidatious as I jammed the first one through the liner and into the foam, but hey, it worked!
 
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Originally Posted by JonnyO
Again, I must pray that the pic comes out.
I think it's a 'Joann's' craft store...sumpin' like that, anyway.
And I just pressed them hard into the headliner.
Of course I did kind of press with my finger to see what configuration and how many of these BRADS ( they're called ) to use so it looks like they're supposed to be there.
Hope this helps.
BTW, they have 'em in a fleur de lis (sp?) or even crosses if you want to keep the vampires out( Or if you're Christian ).
ANYWAY, there are several styles to choose from.
I was a bit trepidatious as I jammed the first one through the liner and into the foam, but hey, it worked!
Fantastic idea!
I just did a quick eBay search (as I find walking into habedashery stores somewhat.... intimidating and awkward...)

*Eyelet Outlet MINI ANT Brads 9306 | eBay

Eyelet Outlet Brads-Gymnast 12/Pkg | eBay

The possibilities are endless......
 
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The only way to fix the headliner right is to have it replaced. I took mine to an good shop that does that interior work. They knew exactly what to do. I cost me $300 to have it done and it is great. This will happen on all Jag sedans over time. Just part of maintenance.

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Originally Posted by zej
Fantastic idea!
I just did a quick eBay search (as I find walking into habedashery stores somewhat.... intimidating and awkward...)

*Eyelet Outlet MINI ANT Brads 9306 | eBay

Eyelet Outlet Brads-Gymnast 12/Pkg | eBay

The possibilities are endless......
Hey, now!
It's not like Mom sent you to buy her feminine hygiene products!
 
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EZDriver
The only way to fix the headliner right is to have it replaced. I took mine to an good shop that does that interior work. They knew exactly what to do. I cost me $300 to have it done and it is great. This will happen on all Jag sedans over time. Just part of maintenance.

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No disputing what you're saying, but $3.00 is a cost-effective/quick relief of the eyesore until one finds he has $300 to happily part with. ( Which seems a reasonable price, btw. )
Just sayin'.
 
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DIY is under $75
 
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If I could find a shop anywhere near Los Angeles that would do it for $300 I'd go in a heartbeat. I've watched the videos and it doesn't look too difficult, but I'd rather leave it to someone who has experience doing it.
 
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I found a place in Dallas that did a excellent job for $275 on a jag with a sunroof. try www.headliner-magic.com
 
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