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XJ6 suspension overhaul, fitting rear sway bars, monostrut

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Old 05-26-2016, 11:03 AM
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Default XJ6 suspension overhaul, fitting rear sway bars, monostrut

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Just overhauled the suspension on my 95 XJ6. Here's hoping the parts list would be useful for anyone looking for a refresh / upgrade. The standard bushings are fairly self explanatory. The monostrut and rear sway bars however took abit of research (in this forum!) as they were not standard on my car. Andy's drop links also fitted. All i can say is that the ride has been transformed! The turn in is awesome and cruising comfort is preserved.

Anti Roll Bar & Bush Rear
Diagram Part Part No. Qty Comments
1 Rear Anti Roll Bar MNA3500DA 1 Uprated version powerhouseuk; Roll bar bushes to be trimmed to fit
2 Rear Anti Roll Bar Link MNA3505AE 2
3 Bush MNA3504AB 4
4 Plain Washer WC110061J 2
5 Nut NY110041 2
6 Anti roll bar mounting bracket MNA3501AA 2
7 Anti roll bar mounting bush CBC4901 2 To be trimmed
8 Flange head screw JFS11020F 4
9 Bolt C2P7626 2
10 Locking nut FN110041J 2

Anti Roll Bar & Lower Fulcrum Tie
Diagram Part Part No. Qty Comments
3 Anti roll bar bush (comfort) CAC46517 2
7 Anti roll bar link CAC9827 2 Andy's Rose Jointed;

Crossbeam Assembly Front (Original)
Diagram Part Part No. Qty
2 Mounting Bush MNA2370AA 2
3 Vee Mounting (Front Crossbeam) MNC2360AB 2

Frame Carrier Rear (Original)
Diagram Part Part No. Qty
14 Subframe Bush CCC6875 2

Wishbone Assembly Rear (Mod)
Diagram Part Part No. Qty
6 Wishbone Tie MNC2856BA 1
9 Extension bracket MNC2617BA 1
12 Locking Nut JFX11404E 2
13 Bushed Differential Strut MJA3713AD 1
14 Mounting bush (sports) MJA3715AB2 4
15 Flange Head Bolt FB112131 2
16 Spring nut rear suspension JZM100015 2
18 Pendulum Bush (Top) CAC77601 2
19 Pendulum Bush (Bottom) CAC4713 2

Differential Assembly (Mod)
Diagram Part Part No. Qty
2 Tie Stud NNC5715AA 2

Wishbone Hub Assembly Front
Diagram Part Part No. Qty
3 Wishbone Bush Upper CBC5523 4
11 Bush - Front Lower Wishbone MMD1361AA 2
12 Fulcrum Bush Lower CBC2301 2
13 Damper Bush CAC75851 2
15 Balljoint Assembly JLM11860 2

Wishbone Hub Assembly Front
Diagram Part Part No. Qty
3 Wishbone Bush Upper CBC5523 4

** Bilstein Shocks and rear shock mounts are also key!!






 
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:28 PM
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That's very interesting. On my 95 VDP X300 6cyl My rear anti sway bar is different, its a straight horizontal bar. I think 5/8" dia. and the front has a 1" bar. Everything came off a 96 XJR 6cyl.
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:42 PM
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OK, I forgot what mine looked like. After going in the garage & crawling under the car , they look the same.
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Question Thanks! Can you help obtain measurement of monostrut mount?

Thanks for the photos and parts list. We see many requests for "do I have the parts list correct for..." so your inventory of parts will help those looking to refresh their rear suspension.

I've got my rear "monostrut" at a friends to have the old "comfort" (blue) bushings pressed out, then I'll get it painted or powder coated.

Not sure if I'll buy the Jaguar "sport" (red) bushings or the Powerfex poly bushings yet for the monostrut, as the Jaguar bushings are about half the cost and in this location I'm not convinced that the increased stiffness of polyurethane makes a lot of difference.

BTW, since you have your rear suspension out, perhaps you can help with a favor.

A lot of owners of X300 and X308s that have installed the Powerflex poly bushings in their monostrut have found that the top two bushings don't quite fit in the top strut mounts, and the mount itself has to be spread apart to work them in. Even then it is very tight, and the mounting hole and threads then get misaligned slightly. So while they get it in, it is imperfect, and the bushing itself gets deformed.

I reached out to Powerflex and they are very interested in improving the product if there is an opportunity to do so. So Powerflex has asked if we can get a measurement of the stock mounting so they can investigate if they need to modify the size and design of the bushings that go in the two upper/top mounting locations.

I had planned to get that measurement when I'm next under the car, probably when I replace the fuel filter. But I haven't had a chance yet.

So if you have an opportunity, would you mind checking the measurement shown below by the white arrow. To clarify, not the width of the monostrut "eye" but the gap/width inside of the mounting bracket.

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Old 05-28-2016, 10:17 AM
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Where did you get the bars, brackets, & links, etc ? I understand from what I read on the Forums all the parts a not available. Also read they're pretty expensive used & OEM. As one can see there are a lot of parts, this is not your typical "installation of a rear bar" as on other cars . As I understand you should replace the front bar with the bigger 1" one in place of the 7/8" in order to get the "full benefit". As said, I did the same but had donor car.
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:13 AM
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suspension is fitted ... i'll remember to measure it when i get under it next. Have some residual driveline vibrations that i'm trying to hunt down. A keener eye would've spotted that i missed the transmission mount in my overhaul. Sigh.

most of the parts are available in jaguarclassicparts. The rear antiroll bar is from powerhouse uk (uprated from stock, brand new and slightly thicker). The only parts you can't buy brand new are the monostruts - eBay is your friend. Oh and of course, the front drop links are courtesy of Andy.
 
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Regarding the uprated Powerhouse UK rear ARB that you fitted, you may be interested in the following thread where I am asking if anyone has installed the Powerhouse UK rear bar with everything else stock (e.g. front ARB is stock) and how the car now drives... such as any increase in tendency to oversteer or spin-out, or corners better...

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-bar-151900/


Was it difficult to get the OEM rear ARB bushings to fit the larger rear ARB?

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Old 05-30-2016, 09:58 AM
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Excellent info Kopi! Thanks for taking the time to share it.
I've been researching to get a parts list together for my '97 VDP and have had a difficult time finding some info, especially for the rear anti-sway. You provided the info I need...thanks again!!

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Old 05-31-2016, 11:19 AM
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Al - the tricky part about your question lies in the fact that i overhauled the entire suspension at once. So its not easy to isolate the feel to one single component. What I can report is that the car feels way more composed (again, could be Andy's drop links?). There is a particular turn near my home. Used to take this at ~ 60kmph on my Golf Mk5 GTI. Beyond 60kmph, it understeers and starts washing out so i'm pretty sure its the max (Eagle F1 Assy 2). Prior to the overhaul, i did not dare breach 55kmph because the suspension sounded like it was gonna fall apart. And the body roll .. geez. With the suspension part done, i could easily do 60kmph again! Very very composed.

No trouble with the bushings. You just need to follow the instructions and file it out a little.

mailshack / bob - you're welcome!
 
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Kopi, I am changing my rear shock absorbers and had a difficulty. If you can help me I would appreciate it. When changing them, mechanic told me my shocks did not fit. Told me that the screw was longer in diameter so the shock did not enter. Shocks are Bilstein BO 4 F4B461858H0. My car is an xj6 sovereign 1990.
 
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Kopi, I am changing my rear shock absorbers and had a difficulty. If you can help me I would appreciate it. When changing them, mechanic told me my shocks did not fit. Told me that the screw was longer in diameter so the shock did not enter. Shocks are Bilstein BO 4 F4B461858H0. My car is an xj6 sovereign 1990.
Hi, I'm guessing that you are asking about an XJ40, so you may want to post this question to the XJ40 forum:

XJ40 ( XJ81 ) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum


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Exclamation I think you have a Series III

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Hi, I'm guessing that you are asking about an XJ40, so you may want to post this question to the XJ40 forum:

XJ40 ( XJ81 ) - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum


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Now that I've looked at your photos again, I think you actually may have a Series III, not an XJ40 and certainly not an X300.

So the shock spec and part number you quote above may not be correct. I'd suggest going to the Series III sub forum here and asking what the best shock is for your model.

I posted some more info in your thread:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...orbers-166243/


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Question Any update on how the larger rear ARB has performed?

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Al - the tricky part about your question lies in the fact that i overhauled the entire suspension at once. So its not easy to isolate the feel to one single component. What I can report is that the car feels way more composed (again, could be Andy's drop links?). There is a particular turn near my home. Used to take this at ~ 60kmph on my Golf Mk5 GTI. Beyond 60kmph, it understeers and starts washing out so i'm pretty sure its the max (Eagle F1 Assy 2). Prior to the overhaul, i did not dare breach 55kmph because the suspension sounded like it was gonna fall apart. And the body roll .. geez. With the suspension part done, i could easily do 60kmph again! Very very composed.

No trouble with the bushings. You just need to follow the instructions and file it out a little.

mailshack / bob - you're welcome!

Kopi, curious, any update on how the larger Powerhouse UK ARB has worked out from a comfort, stability and general steering/handling perspective?


Also for anyone else looking for information on fitting a larger ARB, following is XJREngineer's thread on upgrading the rear ARB:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ension-184197/

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Hi everyone! I hope you all had a peaceful and accident-free Christmas weekend!

I'm back to gathering all parts to overhaul the rear of my 97 XJ6 (finally) Today I was incredibly lucky to find a rear Anti-Roll Bar off of an XJR on my local junk yard

That was the last piece that I was missing on my list, as far as I can tell right now.

I just looked over the list that Kopi provided us with (thank you very much for that!), and noticed this: "Extension bracket MNC2617BA"

Is anybody able to tell me if this part is standard on an 97 XJ6? Or do I need to get this part as well, if I want to replace my original wishbone tie (without the mounting points for the anti roll bar) with the wishbone tie MNC2856BA?

Thank you very much in advance! As always, I will document my repair with photos when I'm finally at it

 
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Hi everyone!

I'm answering my own question from above: Yes, my car does have this extension bracket. I don't know if it's standard on all X300's, but mine for sure does have it.

If the Moderators want to delete these last 2 posts, please feel free to do so.

Thank you again! Happy new year everyone!
 
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MNC2617BA from a X308

Item # 13

Genuine Wishbone Assembly For Jaguar Xj 1998 - 2003 (from 812317 To F59525) Classic | Jaguar Land Rover Classic Parts

And for the X300 it replaces .......

Item # 13 as there are a left and right strut installed

Genuine Wishbone Assembly For Jaguar Xj 1995 - 1997 (from 720125 To 812255) Classic | Jaguar Land Rover Classic Parts

You see it in the picture in post # 1

It can be easily extracted from a salvage X308 without removing the whole rear suspension assembly

The hardware at the bottom attach points are the same but grab as much as you can of the upper attach points

The X300 upper bolts go into a free standing nut and the X308 upper bolts in the same spot but use a nut clip

Grab the X308 hardware as the bolt shank length may be different as you mix up the X308 and X300 hardware on installation
 

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