XJR6 Suspension Problem
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XJR6 Suspension Problem
I have an 96 XJR6, Lately i been hearing clunking noises from the rear of the car, specificly the left rear. The clunk happens everytime when the road is uneven and when the car is parked, if i pushed the rear downward the clunking is there. Now...I suspect it might be the shock? but i would like some opinion before i go all out on that one, is there any other component i should check for ?that might cause such noise?
I know for shocks i have the options of bilstein or oem boge or monroe. I'm wondering do they all come with new washer and bushings and nut?
I know for shocks i have the options of bilstein or oem boge or monroe. I'm wondering do they all come with new washer and bushings and nut?
Last edited by FrozenApple; 08-01-2015 at 02:50 AM.
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It is definitely a bonus that you can induce the noise when the vehicle is stationary. Having been through a catalogue of rear end noises, I could never replicate them when stationary, which made diagnosis rather haphazard. The XJRs are particularly fond of consuming the lower rear shock absorber bushes, which can be replaced separately from the shocks, and these make a distinctive noise when going over bumps, but I could never reproduce the sound when stationary. Have you checked the exhaust isn't fouling anywhere? I would certainly plan to spend some time below the car with an assistant pushing downwards to replicate the sound, allowing it to be located.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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9 out of 10 times it is the rear bushings for the shocks, now whether lower or upper.... but if they've never been replaced the foam uppers are surely gone to dust by now.
If it is the top shock bushings, you might as well change out the upper rear spring bushing too.
If it is the top shock bushings, you might as well change out the upper rear spring bushing too.
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The spring bushings have to be purchased separately.
Here is a link to all the part numbers you need:
Damper and Spring Fittings-Rear - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Heritage Parts UK
Also, if you do a quick search on "rear shocks" here you'll find a few "how to" threads.
Once you identify the part numbers you need, you can Google them from a number of our sponsors and also check eBay and Amazon for good prices.
It's a big job BTW, took me a whole weekend, but it is do-able for a good DIY mechanic with access to the right tools. If you aren't comfortable compressing and pulling springs, you will want to have a shop do it.
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Here is a link to all the part numbers you need:
Damper and Spring Fittings-Rear - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Heritage Parts UK
Also, if you do a quick search on "rear shocks" here you'll find a few "how to" threads.
Once you identify the part numbers you need, you can Google them from a number of our sponsors and also check eBay and Amazon for good prices.
It's a big job BTW, took me a whole weekend, but it is do-able for a good DIY mechanic with access to the right tools. If you aren't comfortable compressing and pulling springs, you will want to have a shop do it.
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The spring bushings have to be purchased separately.
Here is a link to all the part numbers you need:
Damper and Spring Fittings-Rear - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Heritage Parts UK
Also, if you do a quick search on "rear shocks" here you'll find a few "how to" threads.
Once you identify the part numbers you need, you can Google them from a number of our sponsors and also check eBay and Amazon for good prices.
It's a big job BTW, took me a whole weekend, but it is do-able for a good DIY mechanic with access to the right tools. If you aren't comfortable compressing and pulling springs, you will want to have a shop do it.
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Here is a link to all the part numbers you need:
Damper and Spring Fittings-Rear - Parts For XJ Series from (V)720125 to (V)812255 (X300) | Jaguar Heritage Parts UK
Also, if you do a quick search on "rear shocks" here you'll find a few "how to" threads.
Once you identify the part numbers you need, you can Google them from a number of our sponsors and also check eBay and Amazon for good prices.
It's a big job BTW, took me a whole weekend, but it is do-able for a good DIY mechanic with access to the right tools. If you aren't comfortable compressing and pulling springs, you will want to have a shop do it.
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There is a very good article by "black onyx" which shows step by step what to do, and enables the shocks to be removed and replaced without removing driveshafts or hubs, which the manual recommends. I used this method, and can assure you it works. The only PITA in my case was extracting the lower shock mounting bolt, but my No1 persuading tool (large) achieved it in the end. Otherwise a fairly straightforward job, and well worth the effort.
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The job took me a day and a half, almost two really. The first shock (LH, drivers) took FOREVER to get out as I had never done it before on the X300. The second took a lot less time, probably a couple hours.
In a similar way putting them back in was quicker and the second spring/shock went faster, but it still took a couple hours per even once I was "good at it".
It was a PITA for sure, but worth doing yourself for peace of mind. I had scarred and bruised up forearms for days after. But I'd do it again (although hope I don't have to).
The only thing that would "scare" me again was compressing the springs. I still get nervous about that, having them so close to me and having to man-handle them while compressed to get them out and back in was worrisome. If I do have to do this again, I'm getting some better compressors that give me a little more confidence.
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In a similar way putting them back in was quicker and the second spring/shock went faster, but it still took a couple hours per even once I was "good at it".
It was a PITA for sure, but worth doing yourself for peace of mind. I had scarred and bruised up forearms for days after. But I'd do it again (although hope I don't have to).
The only thing that would "scare" me again was compressing the springs. I still get nervous about that, having them so close to me and having to man-handle them while compressed to get them out and back in was worrisome. If I do have to do this again, I'm getting some better compressors that give me a little more confidence.
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The job took me a day and a half, almost two really. The first shock (LH, drivers) took FOREVER to get out as I had never done it before on the X300. The second took a lot less time, probably a couple hours.
In a similar way putting them back in was quicker and the second spring/shock went faster, but it still took a couple hours per even once I was "good at it".
It was a PITA for sure, but worth doing yourself for peace of mind. I had scarred and bruised up forearms for days after. But I'd do it again (although hope I don't have to).
The only thing that would "scare" me again was compressing the springs. I still get nervous about that, having them so close to me and having to man-handle them while compressed to get them out and back in was worrisome. If I do have to do this again, I'm getting some better compressors that give me a little more confidence.
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In a similar way putting them back in was quicker and the second spring/shock went faster, but it still took a couple hours per even once I was "good at it".
It was a PITA for sure, but worth doing yourself for peace of mind. I had scarred and bruised up forearms for days after. But I'd do it again (although hope I don't have to).
The only thing that would "scare" me again was compressing the springs. I still get nervous about that, having them so close to me and having to man-handle them while compressed to get them out and back in was worrisome. If I do have to do this again, I'm getting some better compressors that give me a little more confidence.
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Yup sounds about right, and one last question for u Al, which method did you go with? the one back blackvdp or black onyx?
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I just took off the wheels, brakes, then compressed the springs and then removed the shocks and spring seats.
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The black onyx way has a few advantages in my view:
1) A well documented and illustrated set of instructions online, which actually work.
2) The brakes don't need to be touched.
3) No spring compressor is required.
Number 3) is the most compelling, as it is difficult to attach spring compressors convincingly to the rear springs.
Removing the A frame isn't a big deal, and given the work you are proposing, it would be a pity not to at least check over the A frame bushes themselves, as they are a wear item.
1) A well documented and illustrated set of instructions online, which actually work.
2) The brakes don't need to be touched.
3) No spring compressor is required.
Number 3) is the most compelling, as it is difficult to attach spring compressors convincingly to the rear springs.
Removing the A frame isn't a big deal, and given the work you are proposing, it would be a pity not to at least check over the A frame bushes themselves, as they are a wear item.
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