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Old 03-12-2020, 08:09 AM
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Oh ok....

So what time are you thinking?
I'll put the coffee up around noon...
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 11:36 AM
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I'm leaving right now, can you keep that coffee warm for about 5 days!
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 11:53 AM
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5 days... are you walking?

I got a question I'm turning the engine while looking into the access on the transmission for the locking tool, from what I read it should see a triangle indicator but I'm not seeing it I found the hole for the tool but no where have I seen that triangle do you know if it's a cut out or etched into the metal?
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 12:18 PM
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It isn't a triangle per say but one of the holes is slightly different to the rest, one of the holes has a flat edge to its hole. It's not easy lying on your back with the car on jacks, with the flywheel inches from your nose, but if you look "close" enough you will see that one of the holes is different. It's not real easy to find, but once you do find it it is obvious.

Here is a pic of the tool (there are two tools in the kit, both have the same insertion shape, but different location positions, one will fit your car, the other won't) The insertion part has one significant flat on it and two lesser ones.

UPDATE: Now I read your post closer I see you say you found the correct hole, but not the triangular indicator........I don't think I found one on mine either.


 

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Old 03-12-2020, 12:39 PM
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Ugh!!! Can't tell how much time on spent turning that engine over looking for triangle!
The hole for the tools I found that in no time ...
Its in the service manual (Triangle)!
lol. Oh well..

thanks again going back to install the tool.
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:03 PM
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Ok that was easy Now!
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:09 PM
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Now with just that 303-531 tool in place can i attempt removal of the crank pully bolt?
Or do I need to lock down the camshafts 1st.?
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:46 PM
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DO NOT attempt to remove the crank bolt with the crank positioning tool in place!!!!!!!!!

You DO NOT use the crank positioning tool until after you have removed the timing cover and you are ready to remove the VVTs and tensioners etc.

You use the large pulley/crankshaft holding tool to hold the crankshaft while removing the crank bolt.




You need to read the step-by-step report that I posted by Blackonyx and fully understand the procedure or you may cause some serious damage.

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Old 03-12-2020, 01:53 PM
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Ok ... I didn't think there was enough meat on the tool or the hole it's in to do it...
Waiting on the tool now should be here sometime this afternoon. I did insert positioning tool that's as far as I got.
That's why I asked .. You Bes Das All Know Man.
 

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Old 03-12-2020, 02:01 PM
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Ok it's out ... let me look up Blackonyx post...

thanks CK


that's my helper .. so far he's been cleaning the underside of the car.
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:52 PM
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The crankshaft/harmonic balancer bolt is usually very tight, it is torqued to approx 275ft lbs at the factory, AND laced with red loctite, so if this is the first time it is being removed it may not come easy.

Use the large, sturdy crankshaft holding tool and a quality socket to undo the bolt, I had to use heat on the bolt when I did mine, some people have success with an impact wrench. 275ftlbs is a LOT of torque and that bolt will be tight!

Once you have the crank bolt out you then use the puller for the harmonic balancer. There is a collet between the shaft and the harmonic balancer, and so as soon as you feel the balancer give a little you need to ease it back on to release the collet, if you keep pulling it will just tighten the collet.

Once you have the pulley off you can then remove the timing cover.

Then and only then is when you rotate the crankshaft to the correct position, insert the crank positioning tool, and clamp both camshafts in position so that you can commence to remove the VVTs, tensioners and chains.

Pay attention to the two toothed sprockets on the crankshaft, they are keyed to the crank, and are offset to each other, but can go on backwards. There is a timing mark on the front of the forward sprocket, make sure this is facing you on assembly, and that the rear sprocket is half a tooth offset.
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 03:03 PM
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I couldn't find any post by Blackonyx... well found 2 but nothing about what im doing..

Pay attention to the two toothed sprockets on the crankshaft, they are keyed to the crank, and are offset to each other, but can go on backwards. There is a timing mark on the front of the forward sprocket, make sure this is facing you on assembly, and that the rear sprocket is half a tooth offset.

I read there are no timing marks..? but ill take your word over what i found online........
Are you driving Fast!!!!!
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrjay622
I couldn't find any post by Blackonyx...
I posted a link to it earlier in this thread..........
https://www.docdroid.net/2ZOPQDm/x30...eplacement.pdf

Originally Posted by Mrjay622
I read there are no timing marks..?
Just this one, and it isn't really a timing mark, it just indicates orientation of the crank sprocket, because it can go on backwards, with bad results!

Originally Posted by Mrjay622
Are you driving Fast!!!!!
Yep, I should be there sometime Monday, if I get delayed just start without me.


 
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Old 03-12-2020, 05:04 PM
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Got the tool and got the bolt out...
no thread lock just tight!
I'm only able to get about a 1/2" of the bolts threaded into the pully... going to try and get the pully off in a few...

Your experience has been that pulling the pully off takes a lot of force? I remember what you said about the collet just wondering?
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrjay622
Your experience has been that pulling the pully off takes a lot of force? I remember what you said about the collet just wondering?
The pulley can be tight, mine was so tight I ended up putting as much pressure as I could on it, and left it like that overnight, in the morning a little more pressure and it released easily. That is when you knock the pulley back on a smidgen to break it loose from the collet.
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 05:30 PM
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Ok thanks..
worry more about the bolts striping out than any.... I got time, I'll do as you did if I don't see movement
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:15 PM
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That went easier than I thought it would. ..
Is that part of the seal from the timing chain cover..? Also should I take the collet out, it all came out together.
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:23 PM
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:29 PM
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Mine gave way rather easily also, I couldn't understand why other posts said it was such a bear. Though I had sprayed it the night before. My bolt didn't have any red thread lock on it either.
 
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:37 PM
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Hi HH
Maybe our cars were build on a Monday or Friday? ?? lol
I did spray everything with BP Blaster when I started this adventure. Maybe that helped me too. Or it a mental thing...
I'm done with it for tonight, i can't find my cordless ratchet attachment looks like I have hand and neck cramps in my future. ..
 


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