XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 ) 1997 - 2003

1998 Xj8l fuel pump

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-07-2018, 09:10 PM
Belmon's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 148
Received 17 Likes on 12 Posts
Default 1998 Xj8l fuel pump

So I’m helping out on fixing this 1998 Xj8l with a no start issue. Car has been sitting for 3 years. Went through the bore wash fix still nothing. Checked the valve on the fuel rail and no fuel. Checked the fuel pump relay that’s good. Now checked the voltage going to the pump only getting 4v. Will the pump only work with 12v? And how do you test these pumps without removing the tank?
 
  #2  
Old 04-07-2018, 10:03 PM
Lady Penelope's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Kansas City USA
Posts: 4,039
Received 1,386 Likes on 1,090 Posts
Default



The normally aspirated engine just has the # 1 pump and the main power fuse is after the relay and not before . note the control circuit fuse under the rear seat foot area .

You can place your finger on the relay and feel the relay click once to turn on then click a 2nd time after 5 seconds to turn back off . This is commanded by the key in the on position before start position . The relay will click a 3rd time back on after the ECU sees engine rotation by the Crankshaft sensor . This is a crash / safety design that can throw you off in troubleshooting .

Just because the relay clicks as it's getting it's command the relays power contacts can be bad , you can swap with like numbered relays .

4 volts is not enough .

You can remove the B+ battery terminal and place a heavy jumper wire with common blade terminal ends so not to arc the relay sockets in it's holder . Then reconnect the battery . This will be hot at all times so it will drain your battery . This bypasses all the relay control circuits and turns the pump on .

The Engine ECU will not work with less then 11.5 volts and this is where the fuel pump relay control comes from .

Any questions . just ask and someone will assist you .

A note of caution is that some relays are marked 30 / 87 ( or 86 ? ) and others are marked 3 / 5 as the larger power sockets . To double check your on the correct sockets you want the Brown / Blue wire for the # 1 pump . Your fuse / relay box is different then mine so it may be hard to verify the wire color .

 

Last edited by Lady Penelope; 04-07-2018 at 10:29 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Belmon (04-08-2018)
  #3  
Old 04-08-2018, 11:56 PM
Belmon's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 148
Received 17 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Thanks Penelope it is the fuel pump. Bypassed the relay and still nothing. Will pull the tank tomorrow. I also might be getting this Jaguar. It’s 1 year older and the interior is in better condition. Also it still has the original phone in it. It’s been disconnected but all of the parts at there. I’ll get pictures of the car tomorrow. Also since I’m rebuilding the 1999 engine could I just drop it in the 98? Cause this 98 is just in better condition. I’m not going to part out the 99 just swap engine/transmission. Looks like I’ve been bitten by this jag bug.
 
The following users liked this post:
Lady Penelope (04-09-2018)
  #4  
Old 04-09-2018, 12:11 AM
Lady Penelope's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Kansas City USA
Posts: 4,039
Received 1,386 Likes on 1,090 Posts
Default

The connector can overheat as the pump fails and did you check the fuse Crankshaft after the relay , pump ground wire on the side of the battery ? The relay is recommended to be replaced as new when changing the pump .

The AJ26 and 27 engine is not as simple as dropping one in and others would be better advice on the mater . The 26 may have already been swapped with a 27 as the 26 has no steel piston sleeves and had compression issues .

There are post on tips and shortcuts on pump replacement .

Do the xmission Transgo pressure regulator mod .
 

Last edited by Lady Penelope; 04-09-2018 at 12:18 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Belmon (04-09-2018)
  #5  
Old 04-09-2018, 12:41 AM
Belmon's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 148
Received 17 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

I checked all of the fuses in the car. The only one blown was the license plate bulb fuse a 5A. Other than that nothing else was blown.
 
The following users liked this post:
Lady Penelope (04-09-2018)
  #6  
Old 04-10-2018, 08:41 PM
Belmon's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 148
Received 17 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

OK. So the fuel pump is in. Not fun BTW. Now I have another problem. The car starts and runs for a second then shuts off. My brother says it goes into start mode but doesn’t go into run mode. It just shuts off like when you turn the car off. I didn’t have my code reader. So I don’t know if it has codes or not. I’ll check other threads that describe this problem. But any help is greatly appreciated. I also dread the day my other xj8 needs a fuel pump.
 
  #7  
Old 04-11-2018, 08:58 PM
Belmon's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 148
Received 17 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

So apparently the 98 Jags needs the air cleaner hose on or it will not run. Good to know. And I’ll be getting this car for free because this car is from a divorce and the wife only wanted the car out of spite and just gave it to me and my brother. Just need the guy to pay the registration. And I need to get it smogged.
 
  #8  
Old 04-11-2018, 09:35 PM
Lady Penelope's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Kansas City USA
Posts: 4,039
Received 1,386 Likes on 1,090 Posts
Default

Feel for the # 1 fuel pump relay to click 3 times in the start sequence starting with key out . on - off - on . The 3rd click back on is after the ECU sees engine rotation through the Crankshaft sensor .
 

Last edited by Lady Penelope; 04-11-2018 at 09:37 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Belmon (04-12-2018)
  #9  
Old 04-11-2018, 09:44 PM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,548
Received 13,089 Likes on 6,521 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Belmon
So apparently the 98 Jags needs the air cleaner hose on or it will not run. Good to know.
The Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAFS) is mounted in the air cleaner hose. The MAFS tells the Engine Control Module (ECM) how much air is being inhaled by the engine so it can adjust fueling accordingly.

Cheers,

Don
 
The following users liked this post:
Belmon (04-12-2018)
  #10  
Old 04-11-2018, 11:45 PM
Belmon's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: san diego
Posts: 148
Received 17 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

The weird thing is I had the whole air cleaner disconnected including the maf on my 99 and it started and ran just fine. On the 98 the maf was still connected but the tube going to the throttle body was removed and the car started and ran for a second then shut off.
 
  #11  
Old 04-12-2018, 09:13 AM
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Crossroads of America
Posts: 19,548
Received 13,089 Likes on 6,521 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Belmon
The weird thing is I had the whole air cleaner disconnected including the maf on my 99 and it started and ran just fine. On the 98 the maf was still connected but the tube going to the throttle body was removed and the car started and ran for a second then shut off.
Off the top of my head, I think the explanation would be that with the MAF disconnected, the ECM falls back to a default fuel map and can keep the engine running, if not optimally.

With the MAF connected but no air being inhaled through it, the ECM is receiving an implausible signal (O grams/second air flow) and reduces fueling to the maximum degree, enleaning the AFR to the point the engine dies because there isn't enough fuel in the mixture to support combustion.

Cheers,

Don
 
The following users liked this post:
Belmon (04-12-2018)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Silo
X-Type ( X400 )
6
01-21-2019 05:03 PM
car5car
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
1
05-18-2016 05:16 AM
TacosUnited
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
3
09-30-2014 12:10 PM
rigdog
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
1
12-03-2013 12:23 PM
nave
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
25
05-27-2013 11:29 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: 1998 Xj8l fuel pump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:27 PM.