1999 XJR - First Car ??
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Unless you are a master automotive diagnostician don't buy an X308. It's a very lovable car and there is no better driving experience, but when something goes wrong it can be intensely difficult figuring out WHAT to repair.
You are young. I will be 50 in a few weeks. I have many years of experience repairing and maintaining my personal cars as well as the cars of my friends and family. I have a very well equipped garage. I am by no means a professional, but I'd say there are about 5% of things a car might need done to it, mechanically speaking, that I can't do myself.
The problem is, of the dozens of other cars I've maintained and worked on, the Jaguars (I've had 3) are by far the hardest to diagnose. I end up spending many precious hours just trying to decide WHAT to do. Then a misdiagnosis means I spend money and time installing parts that seemed like the most logical corrections, only to find out the original problem was not repaired.
It is a wonderful hobby car. It is a wonderful second car. If you happen to get a truly well maintained X308 it may even be a reliable car (if you keep up the maintenance). I love Jaguar cars. That said, I am thinking of selling both of mine. My plan is to only drive my company car for myself, buy my wife a new car, and keep the old BMW as a back-up car because it is so reliable. Then, when I retire I want to buy a pristine 2003 XJR with less than 50,000 miles that is in showroom condition and has been loved. That will be my retirement car. Yes, it will sell for a premium but that's ok. It'll be worth it.
Ok, far more than you probably needed to hear from me..hahahaha
You are young. I will be 50 in a few weeks. I have many years of experience repairing and maintaining my personal cars as well as the cars of my friends and family. I have a very well equipped garage. I am by no means a professional, but I'd say there are about 5% of things a car might need done to it, mechanically speaking, that I can't do myself.
The problem is, of the dozens of other cars I've maintained and worked on, the Jaguars (I've had 3) are by far the hardest to diagnose. I end up spending many precious hours just trying to decide WHAT to do. Then a misdiagnosis means I spend money and time installing parts that seemed like the most logical corrections, only to find out the original problem was not repaired.
It is a wonderful hobby car. It is a wonderful second car. If you happen to get a truly well maintained X308 it may even be a reliable car (if you keep up the maintenance). I love Jaguar cars. That said, I am thinking of selling both of mine. My plan is to only drive my company car for myself, buy my wife a new car, and keep the old BMW as a back-up car because it is so reliable. Then, when I retire I want to buy a pristine 2003 XJR with less than 50,000 miles that is in showroom condition and has been loved. That will be my retirement car. Yes, it will sell for a premium but that's ok. It'll be worth it.
Ok, far more than you probably needed to hear from me..hahahaha
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and
2. a well equiped bank account
OR
3. a substantial bank account
fixed it for you
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I have no right to steer you left or right in your decision, but I will sadly say imo these cars are more of a second car for a hobbyist than a primary/solitaire daily driver.
Soooooo.....
Offer him 4k, because thats fair. Then buy this
Toyota Camry 98
for when your broke and don't feel like walking
Soooooo.....
Offer him 4k, because thats fair. Then buy this
Toyota Camry 98
for when your broke and don't feel like walking
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Please read my signature line.
I have horses and an XJR, I love them all, so I speak from experience.
I just installed a lift in my home garage so I have it easier than most.
Vector
Last edited by Vector; 08-14-2016 at 07:11 AM.
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I would NEVER steer anyone away (especially our young members) from XJR or Jaguar ownership. My XJR-100 is my daily driver, doesn't require anything any other car I've owned hasn't needed. Timely, quality oil changes, good fuel, lube points lubed, rotate the tires, changes the pads and check the rotors when needed and fresh' the fuel and air filters as required. Hondas and Toyotas break too, just drive by one of their service centers, they are full of broken cars.
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Unless you are a master automotive diagnostician don't buy an X308. It's a very lovable car and there is no better driving experience, but when something goes wrong it can be intensely difficult figuring out WHAT to repair.
You are young. I will be 50 in a few weeks. I have many years of experience repairing and maintaining my personal cars as well as the cars of my friends and family. I have a very well equipped garage. I am by no means a professional, but I'd say there are about 5% of things a car might need done to it, mechanically speaking, that I can't do myself.
The problem is, of the dozens of other cars I've maintained and worked on, the Jaguars (I've had 3) are by far the hardest to diagnose. I end up spending many precious hours just trying to decide WHAT to do. Then a misdiagnosis means I spend money and time installing parts that seemed like the most logical corrections, only to find out the original problem was not repaired.
It is a wonderful hobby car. It is a wonderful second car. If you happen to get a truly well maintained X308 it may even be a reliable car (if you keep up the maintenance). I love Jaguar cars. That said, I am thinking of selling both of mine. My plan is to only drive my company car for myself, buy my wife a new car, and keep the old BMW as a back-up car because it is so reliable. Then, when I retire I want to buy a pristine 2003 XJR with less than 50,000 miles that is in showroom condition and has been loved. That will be my retirement car. Yes, it will sell for a premium but that's ok. It'll be worth it.
Ok, far more than you probably needed to hear from me..hahahaha
You are young. I will be 50 in a few weeks. I have many years of experience repairing and maintaining my personal cars as well as the cars of my friends and family. I have a very well equipped garage. I am by no means a professional, but I'd say there are about 5% of things a car might need done to it, mechanically speaking, that I can't do myself.
The problem is, of the dozens of other cars I've maintained and worked on, the Jaguars (I've had 3) are by far the hardest to diagnose. I end up spending many precious hours just trying to decide WHAT to do. Then a misdiagnosis means I spend money and time installing parts that seemed like the most logical corrections, only to find out the original problem was not repaired.
It is a wonderful hobby car. It is a wonderful second car. If you happen to get a truly well maintained X308 it may even be a reliable car (if you keep up the maintenance). I love Jaguar cars. That said, I am thinking of selling both of mine. My plan is to only drive my company car for myself, buy my wife a new car, and keep the old BMW as a back-up car because it is so reliable. Then, when I retire I want to buy a pristine 2003 XJR with less than 50,000 miles that is in showroom condition and has been loved. That will be my retirement car. Yes, it will sell for a premium but that's ok. It'll be worth it.
Ok, far more than you probably needed to hear from me..hahahaha
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Thanks for the warning, no Audis in my future. lol
I have worked on several Volkswagens, usually Passats, but never an Audi. Most of my wrenching has been on Volvo and BMW cars, with a smattering of Nissan, Chevrolet, Toyota and Kia thrown in. One disaster trying to revive a Ford pickup but that wasn't the trucks fault, the previous owner overheated it much worse than they admitted.
My experience with the Jaguar is that it's easier to perform the repair because it's a large engine compartment fairly logically laid out. 80sRule is a better mechanic than myself however because the diagnostic portion of owning a Jaguar has been more of a challenge for this guy.
Off on a tangent, my apologies to the OP.
I have worked on several Volkswagens, usually Passats, but never an Audi. Most of my wrenching has been on Volvo and BMW cars, with a smattering of Nissan, Chevrolet, Toyota and Kia thrown in. One disaster trying to revive a Ford pickup but that wasn't the trucks fault, the previous owner overheated it much worse than they admitted.
My experience with the Jaguar is that it's easier to perform the repair because it's a large engine compartment fairly logically laid out. 80sRule is a better mechanic than myself however because the diagnostic portion of owning a Jaguar has been more of a challenge for this guy.
Off on a tangent, my apologies to the OP.
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