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Old 11-27-2023 | 05:36 PM
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Hello everyone I’m replacing all ball joints and bushings on 2003 xj8 base and when I pulled the steering rack back to remove the lower control arm bolt a shim ( looks like rubber) fell out and now I’m putting everything back together and can’t figure out where it’s going so I looked the shop manual but the diagram is not clear of the exact spot and I don’t know if there is another one on the other side I didn’t see one please advise. Thank you much
 
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Old 11-28-2023 | 04:14 AM
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Can you post a picture of this rubber shim?
 

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Old 11-28-2023 | 09:45 AM
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It’s very hard maybe not rubber
 
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Old 11-28-2023 | 12:58 PM
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Yeah, that’s just road debris that fell out. That has nothing to do with the car.
 
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Old 11-28-2023 | 06:03 PM
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That was actually my suspicion as well, when I saw that part (....road debris...), but I wasn't sure enough to write it.
If a dead rat falls out, there is also no need to put it back in the engine compartment or suspension exactly where it was...
(I once had one hanging in the suspension...)

But while I was double checking all kinds of parts, incl. engine mounts of the X-Type, where rubber could have detached from, I cam across this one:

Your bit of rubber (or similar) would NOT have come from this part, but while you are replacing parts on your Jag, better make sure that yours is still OK. I had to replace mine, as the rubber bits in the bigger end where broken thru, all of them, and there was way too much movement (roll) possible. You find this part in the middle under your car. There are different replacement "versions", which feature a different "strength" of rubber. I went for the equivalent Ford part, as it was way cheaper.
 
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Old 11-28-2023 | 07:43 PM
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[QUOTE=Peter_of_Australia;2698918]That was actually my suspicion as well, when I saw that part (....road debris...), but I wasn't sure enough to write it.
If a dead rat falls out, there is also no need to put it back in the engine compartment or suspension exactly where it was...
(I once had one hanging in the suspension...)

But while I was double checking all kinds of parts, incl. engine mounts of the X-Type, where rubber could have detached from, I cam across this one:

Your bit of rubber (or similar) would NOT have come from this part, but while you are replacing parts on your Jag, better make sure that yours is still OK. I had to replace mine, as the rubber bits in the bigger end where broken thru, all of them, and there was way too much movement (roll) possible. You find this part in the middle under your car. There are different replacement "versions", which feature a different "strength" of rubber. I went for the equivalent Ford part, as it was way cheaper
 
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Old 11-28-2023 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_of_Australia
That was actually my suspicion as well, when I saw that part (....road debris...), but I wasn't sure enough to write it.
If a dead rat falls out, there is also no need to put it back in the engine compartment or suspension exactly where it was...
(I once had one hanging in the suspension...)

But while I was double checking all kinds of parts, incl. engine mounts of the X-Type, where rubber could have detached from, I cam across this one:

Your bit of rubber (or similar) would NOT have come from this part, but while you are replacing parts on your Jag, better make sure that yours is still OK. I had to replace mine, as the rubber bits in the bigger end where broken thru, all of them, and there was way too much movement (roll) possible. You find this part in the middle under your car. There are different replacement "versions", which feature a different "strength" of rubber. I went for the equivalent Ford part, as it was way cheaper.
yeah I replaced this one on a 2003 x type 3.0 it’s mounted on the transfer case and it was difficult to find because I didn’t know what was called
 
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Old 11-28-2023 | 08:22 PM
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Yes, I went thru a "finding process" myself to identify this part:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...t-part-272640/
 
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Old 12-01-2023 | 09:48 AM
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Hello again fellas just found out that this is as I said a shim that Jaguar added because they couldn’t get the alignment right not only on xj8 but on xj6 and 12 apparently it was added to the upper wish bone (control arm) on the passenger side. Just wanted to let you know.
 
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Oh? Where in the wishbone does it mount?
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 04:48 PM
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Oh? Where in the wishbone does it mount?
I don’t know I read it in one of the forums but after a little search it seems like it’s not the piece that I have
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 05:27 PM
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Do you have a picture of what that wedge should look like? Maybe you have only a broken-off piece of that wedge only?
You know, it's possible that you do not recognize the wedge, because it is broken... - just as in the following joke:

Someone passed a farm and accidentally drove over a chook (Austr. for: chicken). He picked up the chook, drove to the farmer, showed him the chook and apologized. The farmer said: "It's not one of mine: My chooks aren't that flat!"
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 05:34 PM
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I have never seen one of those wedges before. Maybe @motorcarman has?
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 05:34 PM
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That’s a good one! It seems like they are adding washers to the wishbone to body bolt and calling it shims
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 06:05 PM
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Type on google jaguar xk8 front suspension shims and you will see it looks like I’m in trouble
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 06:09 PM
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Whatever bushings I took out is long gone
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 07:38 PM
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I can't imagine where on the X308 upper wishbone that bushing would fit... the xk8 suspension may be different?


 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 08:27 PM
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Thank you I sure hope that you are right will creep searching
 
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Old 12-02-2023 | 10:02 PM
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I've had all of the suspension out of my 2000 x308 and never saw anything that looked like that little wedge.
 
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