aluminum thermostat housing for a 2000 XJR
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aluminum thermostat housing for a 2000 XJR
Is there an aluminum thermostat housing replacement available for an XJR 2000? I see availability for the XJ8, but not an XJR. Welsh emailed me to say they don't have an aluminum housing for the XJR. Maybe I am overlooking the availability. Would anyone recommend simply getting another plastic factory Jaguar replacement? Or, are they not as much of an issue on the s/c XJR? Thanks
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Update: Go to post# 7 for corrected JEPC JPEG file and additional information on XJR Water Outlet.
Well, looked all over the internet for XJR Thermostat Housing is no luck. Based on the JEPC (Jaguar Electronic Parts Catalog) and the JTIS (Jaguar Techinican Information System), the thermostat is housed in what is called the Coolant outlet duct (outlet Pipe) also called Water Outlet.
Here are the 2 JPEG files - one from JEPC and the other from JTIS:
I found 2 posts on XJR Thermostat location and where it is housed:
You noticed that I did not use "Thermostat Housing"
First one is here on the Jaguar Forum - Posting #2 in thread - Paul Pavlik:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...acement-55508/
The XKR uses a Aluminum Thermostat Housing.
Second one is on the UK Jaguar Forum -my timing chains and tensioner experience first posting - odl21:
Jaguar Forum.co.uk • View topic - my timing chains and tensioner experience
the biggest problem i had, which was the only complication, happened as i removed the water outlet pipe from the heads. one of the 6mm steel bolts had corroded in the head and sheared off as i unscrewed it.
there was a little of the bolt left but no amount of oil, shock, heat or other trick budged it, so i started drilling it out with a right angle drill attachment.
then disaster struck when the drill bit snapped off half way through. one only way to remove the drill bit without pulling the head off, was to spend over an hour with a dremel tool at 30,000rpm using a chainsaw sharpening bit to grind the bolt and the drill bit out.
eventually i ended up with most of the bolt removed and was amazingly able to clean up the hole with a drill and re tap it to 6mm. the hole was in the right place and the water outlet bolted back up and torqued up nicely. i used new seals and coated the bolts in copper grease before putting it back.
the little preformed plastic pipes for coolant are easy to snap. i broke the one from the coolant outlet to the header tank. it was about 7 quid from the jag dealer.
Well - It looks like there are 2 different opinions on the subject. One says it is an Aluminum part and the other UK posting says it is Plastic parts????
Maybe someone here on the forum can give some hands-on information about this issue.
The Outlet Pipe assembly is part number AJ811259 for one vin range and AJ812489 for the other vin range.
Jim Lombardi
Well, looked all over the internet for XJR Thermostat Housing is no luck. Based on the JEPC (Jaguar Electronic Parts Catalog) and the JTIS (Jaguar Techinican Information System), the thermostat is housed in what is called the Coolant outlet duct (outlet Pipe) also called Water Outlet.
Here are the 2 JPEG files - one from JEPC and the other from JTIS:
I found 2 posts on XJR Thermostat location and where it is housed:
You noticed that I did not use "Thermostat Housing"
First one is here on the Jaguar Forum - Posting #2 in thread - Paul Pavlik:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...acement-55508/
The XKR uses a Aluminum Thermostat Housing.
Second one is on the UK Jaguar Forum -my timing chains and tensioner experience first posting - odl21:
Jaguar Forum.co.uk • View topic - my timing chains and tensioner experience
the biggest problem i had, which was the only complication, happened as i removed the water outlet pipe from the heads. one of the 6mm steel bolts had corroded in the head and sheared off as i unscrewed it.
there was a little of the bolt left but no amount of oil, shock, heat or other trick budged it, so i started drilling it out with a right angle drill attachment.
then disaster struck when the drill bit snapped off half way through. one only way to remove the drill bit without pulling the head off, was to spend over an hour with a dremel tool at 30,000rpm using a chainsaw sharpening bit to grind the bolt and the drill bit out.
eventually i ended up with most of the bolt removed and was amazingly able to clean up the hole with a drill and re tap it to 6mm. the hole was in the right place and the water outlet bolted back up and torqued up nicely. i used new seals and coated the bolts in copper grease before putting it back.
the little preformed plastic pipes for coolant are easy to snap. i broke the one from the coolant outlet to the header tank. it was about 7 quid from the jag dealer.
Well - It looks like there are 2 different opinions on the subject. One says it is an Aluminum part and the other UK posting says it is Plastic parts????
Maybe someone here on the forum can give some hands-on information about this issue.
The Outlet Pipe assembly is part number AJ811259 for one vin range and AJ812489 for the other vin range.
Jim Lombardi
Last edited by jimlombardi; 06-24-2011 at 07:28 AM.
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Well - It looks like there are 2 different opinions on the subject. One says it is an Aluminum part and the other UK posting says it is Plastic parts????
Maybe someone here on the forum can give some hands-on information about this issue.
The Outlet Pipe assembly is part number AJ811259 for one vin range and AJ812489 for the other vin range.
Maybe someone here on the forum can give some hands-on information about this issue.
The Outlet Pipe assembly is part number AJ811259 for one vin range and AJ812489 for the other vin range.
The OP has a 2000 XJR which means a 4.0 liter supercharged engine.
The EPC reference you pulled up is from an XK 4.2 liter supercharged engine.
The JTIS reference is for a 1998 XK, but the pictured unit is the same as for a 2000 XJR.
The thread on the UK site only mentions "plastic" once:
the little preformed plastic pipes for coolant
It is aluminum. As are its mating parts.
That has a lot to do with why there is no new and improved aftermarket version. There is no need for one as compared to the plastic coolant tower on the NA engines and hence no market.
Last edited by plums; 06-23-2011 at 08:58 PM.
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Hi Plum
Thank you for your informative reply. The Supercharged version of the XJ seems to have a improved design elements over NA XJ models.
I went back to the JEPC and I made sure I accessed the Engine Coolant components for XJ Supercharged 4.0 Engine:
Here is the JPEG file:
You can see that #1 on the Diagram is first listed as the Outlet Pipe, then it is listed as the Thermostat Housing. Maybe either part name can be used to identify this part?
The part number vary by Vin numbers and also seem to vary by Engine numbers:
NCC2241AD NCC2241AE AJ83968 AJ81981
To VIN (818581)
NCC2241AD
From VIN (818582) To Engine (9810140000)
4.0 Litre supercharged
NCC2241AE
From Engine (0108130000)
4.0 Litre supercharged
AJ83968
From Engine (9810150000) To Engine (0108122359)
4.0 Litre supercharged
AJ81981
Part# AJ81981 is the current part number (all the rest are shown as superceded on Gaudin Jaguar Parts website). Their discounted price is $463.12
Here is the JPEG file from my earlier post that I extracted from the JTIS software:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...utlet-pipe-jpg
Thanks again Plum for your post confirming that the Coolant components for XJR are Aluminum.
Jim Lombardi
Thank you for your informative reply. The Supercharged version of the XJ seems to have a improved design elements over NA XJ models.
I went back to the JEPC and I made sure I accessed the Engine Coolant components for XJ Supercharged 4.0 Engine:
Here is the JPEG file:
You can see that #1 on the Diagram is first listed as the Outlet Pipe, then it is listed as the Thermostat Housing. Maybe either part name can be used to identify this part?
The part number vary by Vin numbers and also seem to vary by Engine numbers:
NCC2241AD NCC2241AE AJ83968 AJ81981
To VIN (818581)
NCC2241AD
From VIN (818582) To Engine (9810140000)
4.0 Litre supercharged
NCC2241AE
From Engine (0108130000)
4.0 Litre supercharged
AJ83968
From Engine (9810150000) To Engine (0108122359)
4.0 Litre supercharged
AJ81981
Part# AJ81981 is the current part number (all the rest are shown as superceded on Gaudin Jaguar Parts website). Their discounted price is $463.12
Here is the JPEG file from my earlier post that I extracted from the JTIS software:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...utlet-pipe-jpg
Thanks again Plum for your post confirming that the Coolant components for XJR are Aluminum.
Jim Lombardi
Last edited by jimlombardi; 06-24-2011 at 07:40 AM.
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