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Old 03-21-2020, 04:32 AM
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I have used a “C” shaped wrench for years. Don’t know the exact name for this type & I searched. It is similar to pliers type but does not have 2 handles, only one. It has always been difficult to get a good grip on the filter but, once I do It easily comes off….until today!

I changed the filter 1 year ago & always tighten hand tight only. It would not come off & the wrench kept slipping & started to dent the old filter!

I searched online for types of filter wrenches & saw the black (plastic?) cap type & that looked good to me since it seems to grip the filter 360˚.
I thought it would be like using a socket & ratchet for a stubborn bolt instead of a pliers where you just chew up the stuck bolt. I went to O’Reilly’s & brought in my new Jaguar brand filter to make sure the new wrench will fit. They had many cap type wrenches & the guy tested on my filter & none fit. He said none of the cap type filters would fit due to the type of filter. He suggested strap type (Which I now see has been mentioned here when I searched this topic) I bought a Pennzoil brand #19400. I had never used strap wrench type b4. I’ve used the band with handle type & considered that but, he said if it is tight, you may not have room. He explained that you use a breaker bar or ½” drive ratchet inserting it into the square hole at the end after you wrap the strap around the filter. I have a Gorilla extendable tire wrench that is ½” drive.
I tried but the Gorilla male would absolutely NOT fit into the female square hole! It would go in maybe 1/16" if I forced it so it would immediately slip out when I tried to use it. I noticed that there were 2 holes on the side of the strap wrench so I tried a Phillips screwdriver & it did fit through so in theory I could use that to crank on the wrench. After many tries, I got the strap as tight as I could by hand & then was able to use the screwdriver to crank it another 180˚ where it was stopped by stuff in the way. Maybe if I was able to reposition the screw driver to crank an additional 180˚, it would have loosened the old filter. I could not. If there were 4 holes instead of 2 so I could position the screwdriver 90˚? But there were only the 2 round holes.

I now hate strap wrenches.

I was tempted to jam a large screwdriver completely through the filter but then if I failed to remove it I would not be able to fill with oil & move the car.
I was about to give up & reuse the old filter hoping that the dents I had already made, did not cause a leak. I tried to use my “C” type old wrench again & managed to find a 2nd spot where it could grab w/o slipping & with much force, slowly removed the old filter. The gasket seemed intact on the old filter. The area where gasket meets metal felt smooth & looked fine w/o any gasket residue. So I finished the oil change.

But I want a new, different type of filter wrench!

What about:
TEKTON 5866 12-Inch Oil Filter Pliers $12.00
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Or
Oil Filter Plier, Adj, 4 Position, 9 In L by Channellock $16.02

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Or

Motivx Tools Small Adjustable Oil Filter Wrench for Removing 2.5" - 3.25" Diameter Spin-On Oil Filters $21.95
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The EAZ1354 filter is ~ 3.25” diameter but I think the groves on the end are different vs. U.S. aftermarket filters so the cap type (steel or plastic) will not be an exact fit so I would need an adjustable wrench.
 
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:00 AM
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This is the type I now have:
Jaws Type Offset Oil Filter Wrench
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lumax-Ja...1807/303525628
 
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After being continuously dissatisfied with the various other styles for years, this one works fine every time.
https://www.harborfreight.com/lockin...+filter+wrench


 
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I just use the old fashioned band type.



 
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I prefer this type. If the space is limited for good tightening by hand, you can tighten the new oil filter without scratching it.


 
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Old 03-21-2020, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by M. Stojanovic
I prefer this type. If the space is limited for good tightening by hand, you can tighten the new oil filter without scratching it.



That is the cap style.

The OReilly’s guy told me those do not match the Jaguar brand filter. He tried one that seems to almost fit but still would not grab.

Do you know the brand & size of the one in your picture? What do you use with it, a ½” ratchet?
 
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It's a 76 mm 12 Flute wrench. Here's one on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oil-Filter-...EAAOSw-bReXg~U
 
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I counted the flutes on my Jaguar EAZ1354 filter & it is 12 like the eBay tool. I measured the diameter of the filter (not the box as I did b4) & I think it is 2 ¾"
The digram shows the square hole in the tool is 10mm or 0.39" & that s/b very close to ⅜" (0375) So I think the tool is used with a ⅜" ratchet which would be more convenient for me.

The diagram shows 76mm/3” OD & 74.2mm/2.92” ID.
I do not have a caliper to to measure the exact diameter of my oil filter so I just used a tape measure. But does this tool fit loosely on the Jag filter so, it will not remove a tight filter?

If a local store carried it I could just bring in my filter & try it on for size.
I think I might buy it. Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by Iconoclast
The diagram shows 76mm/3” OD & 74.2mm/2.92” ID. I do not have a caliper to to measure the exact diameter of my oil filter so I just used a tape measure. But does this tool fit loosely on the Jag filter so, it will not remove a tight filter?
The diameters of a genuine Jag filter are 73.3 mm between two opposite valleys and the OD is 76.2 mm. The small clearance, 74.2 vs. 73.3 is probably necessary to prevent the wrench from getting stuck on the filter and to allow for some tolerances in the spacing of the flutes.

Otherwise, if there is a Harley repair shop near where you live, you can take a Jag filter there and try the Harley wrench on. Perhaps you can easily find and buy a Harley wrench locally (same size as the Jag's).
 
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Old 03-22-2020, 03:58 AM
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Thanks, HD seems to have 14 flutes & not 12 flutes like the Jag filter.
Oil Filter Cap Wrench Tool for 1984-2019 Harley Davidson Spin-on Oil Filters (Except '15-later XG) Twin Cam Oil Filters with 76 x 14 Flutes
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I will take your word for it that my Jag filter = 73.3mm & the tool you recommend & I assume have used is the 74.2mm So that is only a mere 1mm extra space.
I will buy it.
Thanks again.
 
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I'm still going to buy a better filter wrench but today I learned more about my strap wrench. I now know it works with 4 tools:
  • ½” drive but need to remove plastic end tab! (Yes, Gorilla wrench does fit.)
  • Phillips screwdriver but not very practical in the Jag filter crowded area
  • ¾” open end wrench fitting over the outside! (This would have solved the problem, had I known!)
  • Adjustable wrench! (This would have solved the problem, had I known!)
Really poor instructions on the back of the package.
 

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Originally Posted by Iconoclast
Thanks, HD seems to have 14 flutes & not 12 flutes like the Jag filter.
Looks like I was confused by the same Ebay seller who offers the same Jag 76 x 12 flutes wrench also for certain BMW (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VAWiK-Oil-F...s/223895926818) and the writing on the picture says "& for Harley". I now understand that he put it because he also has wrench for Harleys which is, as you informed, 76 x 14 flutes and it is actually polygonal, not fluted.
 
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I ordered the steel cap type tool 76 mm x 12 flutes for Jaguar from Taiwan on eBay.
Should arrive by May 20th, LOL.

Luckily I will not need to use till 3-2021.
I may also buy the HF one that Carnival Kid likes as a backup.

Thanks again.
 
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Sorry for the late reply, but as it so happened I changed the oil on a 2002 XJ8 today and thought I would take some photos of some of the oil wrenches in my collection and what seemed to work best on this particular X308.

Here are the three varieties of filter I had on hand (I stock up when I find them on sale), along with cap-style adapters that fit each filter. I have two large sets of these adapters in both cast alloy and stamped steel types, plus a number of additional adapters that I purchased individually (in case you haven't noticed, I'm a tool junkie):


The adapter that fits the Mann W719/7 is 75mm with 12 semi-cylindrical ribs. The adapter that fits this particular Jaguar EAZ 1354 is 75 mm with 15 flats (this NOS filter is marked Made in the U.K. and may date to the '00s - I got these from David at everydayxj.com). The cast alloy adapter that fits the Wix 51228 is 73mm with 15 flutes. Two stamped steel adapters also fit the Wix. One is 75mm with 15 flutes, and the other is 74mm with 15 semi-cylindrical ribs (this one fits tightly).

However, none of the cap-style adapters would work on this X308 with the AJ27. There is not enough space between the top or end of the filter and the inner face of the subframe. With hex extensions on their top sides, the cast alloy adapters wouldn't even fit between the subframe and the end of the filter. There's just not enough clearance. I checked our 2003 X308 and it has the same limited clearance. I don't recall whether the same situation exists on cars with the AJ26 but I'll have a '98 X100 here on Thursday and will check:


The stamped steel adapters can slide in on top of the filter, but there's no room to insert the anvil of even a small-headed ratchet (this one is by Nepros of Japan, and as far as I know theirs are the best ratchets in the world). A 3/8" drive breaker bar might work, but it would be inconvenient every time you needed to adjust for a new swing, and there is the possibility that once the filter was loosened, the clearance would have decreased to the point the breaker bar and adapter could not be removed:


For these situations with insufficient clearance for the cap-style adapters, there are plenty of options. Here are some from my own collection. I own several others, but not the Facom adjustable types, which look interesting but are very expensive in the U.S.:


All of these will work on this X308, but all of them will scratch the paint on the new filter to one degree or another as M. Stojanovic mentioned. The large Klein strap wrench and plier-type wrenches can even crush the filter, which is not usually a problem if you're trying to remove a stubborn old filter, but you don't want to do it to your new filter and risk subsequent failure of the canister.

So like Bob, the wrench I like most for the X308 is the plain old traditional band type. These come in several sizes, so choose one that will tighten securely on the X308 filters. This is an old Craftsman, made in the USA, probably by Danaher/KD:


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Originally Posted by Don B
I believe welding-on a flat on the above wrench would solve the space problem. The same should work on the Taiwan wrench (for Mann W719/7 or genine Jag filters). The Taiwan wrench is 36 mm high which would bring it to 40 mm with a 4 mm flat welded-on.


 
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...... some of the oil wrenches in my collection ......
Some of your collection!

At least I have one not shown but you probably have it too.



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Nuts to bolts: once you get the old one off and decide to do it yourself: hand tighten and every four months or so, take it off by hand. no: then the metal strap. Just for fun -- and I am a diy guy, not a pro -- still, eight different wrenches, three never used. Favorite was an old plumbers strap-type pipe wrenchI inherited from my granddad -- he died in '71 -- and used it for over fifty years before I got it and broke it, as the canvas strap which had rotted away, broke on a 73 BMW 2500 . . . in 1981.

The most miserable type is the screwdriver and hammer type (you drive the screwdriver through the filter housing, rip it off, and back the ring off with the screwdriver and a hammer) . . . we have all done it, swearing at oil monkeys the whole time.
 
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Originally Posted by GGG
Some of your collection!

At least I have one not shown but you probably have it too.
I don't have that one, Graham, but it looks like it would work perfectly on an X308! Is it the one made by Laser Tools? I assume it's 76mm? I've looked at that one on eBay but it's expensive to have one shipped to the U.S. (though I have purchased quite a few Laser tools from the U.K.).

The ones I have that I didn't include in the photo are mostly variations on the same themes but in different sizes or ones for specialty applications like Audi, Toyota, etc.

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I don't use wrenches, I put mine on hand tight (wrenches should not be used to tighten any oil filter) with a light coat of oil on the seal and they generally come off by hand. If I have to, I use a rubber strap to get it moving.
 


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