Buying a 2001 Vanden Plas
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Hi, I've been reading through these forums to learn as much as I can before buying an XJ8 VDP. I know 02-03s are preferable, but I've found a 2001 with 69k miles on it that seems safe enough. I just need advice from you.
The owner says he is the second owner. He told me he's done: Secondary chain tensioners, front brakes, alternator, spark plugs, battery, water and fuel pumps all recently at the dealership. I'm hoping that means metal tensioners, but I'll make sure. Said he's never had tranny issues.
I'm aware that model year 2001 has a mix of nikasil/non-nikasil engines, I still have to find out which one is in this car once I look at it.
I'm trying to balance my precautions with my impulses, and this car seems like it looks good so far!
So my questions:
1. What known issues are left that I should add to purchase cost? (Things I should have done right when I buy it)
2. If I follow through w/ #1, is this 2001 really going to be any more risky than an 02/03?
He wants a little over $8k, I have a good budget for emergencies/repairs as well. Thanks!
The owner says he is the second owner. He told me he's done: Secondary chain tensioners, front brakes, alternator, spark plugs, battery, water and fuel pumps all recently at the dealership. I'm hoping that means metal tensioners, but I'll make sure. Said he's never had tranny issues.
I'm aware that model year 2001 has a mix of nikasil/non-nikasil engines, I still have to find out which one is in this car once I look at it.
I'm trying to balance my precautions with my impulses, and this car seems like it looks good so far!
So my questions:
1. What known issues are left that I should add to purchase cost? (Things I should have done right when I buy it)
2. If I follow through w/ #1, is this 2001 really going to be any more risky than an 02/03?
He wants a little over $8k, I have a good budget for emergencies/repairs as well. Thanks!
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First thing I would do is ask for those dealer service receipts and then go and visit the service manager regarding that work. All in all, its a used car, your either buying someone else's problem or their care of it. There was an old race driver named Smokey Yunick who said "...a car has no idea the name that's on it, ..only how good it is the person that takes care of it." So your correct to be cautious, but after checking with the dealer and it all verifies, then you should be fine.
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I always hear this "service receipt" story and wonder what, exactly, you are expecting to find on a 14 year old car? What is the service manage going to do except verify that the receipts are not fraudulent? He sure as heck ain't gonna say "Yeah,that's the car we screwed up the tensioner installation on!" If you want to pay for them to give it the once over, he might give an opinion.
If you have a good ear, check for engine rattles or knocks. Check for smooth transmission shifts, slow and under a pretty good load. If you do not have a mechanical ear, get someone who does to ride with you.
I obviously do not know the CA market, but I would say $8k is high range for the car. The cosmetics and paint should look really good- almost like new, and mechanical snigglies can be worked out.
If you have a good ear, check for engine rattles or knocks. Check for smooth transmission shifts, slow and under a pretty good load. If you do not have a mechanical ear, get someone who does to ride with you.
I obviously do not know the CA market, but I would say $8k is high range for the car. The cosmetics and paint should look really good- almost like new, and mechanical snigglies can be worked out.
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I always hear this "service receipt" story and wonder what, exactly, you are expecting to find on a 14 year old car? What is the service manage going to do except verify that the receipts are not fraudulent? He sure as heck ain't gonna say "Yeah,that's the car we screwed up the tensioner installation on!" If you want to pay for them to give it the once over, he might give an opinion.
If you have a good ear, check for engine rattles or knocks. Check for smooth transmission shifts, slow and under a pretty good load. If you do not have a mechanical ear, get someone who does to ride with you.
I obviously do not know the CA market, but I would say $8k is high range for the car. The cosmetics and paint should look really good- almost like new, and mechanical snigglies can be worked out.
If you have a good ear, check for engine rattles or knocks. Check for smooth transmission shifts, slow and under a pretty good load. If you do not have a mechanical ear, get someone who does to ride with you.
I obviously do not know the CA market, but I would say $8k is high range for the car. The cosmetics and paint should look really good- almost like new, and mechanical snigglies can be worked out.
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If that one has the CATS system on it, then SHOCKS. They'll run you a pretty penny because they are specific. With only 69k though they should be good (should be!). Then the standard bushings, bearings and seal check.
Also on the shocks, check the top of the front shocks and if the bushings are shaving on the tower, that will need to be addressed. The replacement bushings run $68, but you need to get the retainers pressed out and repressed. If you don't have a press, a local machine shop should be able to do this for about $40-60 depending.
Be sure to turn the fan on full and set it on the upper section (dash) and feel to see how the air flows out the rear vent in the center council. The gate seal is known to break down and stuff up the channels. Its not hard to clean, but you have to take apart the center council to do it. Make sure it has a jack kit and spare, they are known to disappear.
Check for cracks on the wood panels. Its not the wood, its the shellac finish and runs about $150 per panel to redo properly. They may say ...just buy some off eBay. Oh contraire, the wood is matched for each car, so you may get a lighter or darker mismatched finish.
I hope this doesn't scare you away (for me its leverage to lower the price), it is a 14 yr old car after all.
Also on the shocks, check the top of the front shocks and if the bushings are shaving on the tower, that will need to be addressed. The replacement bushings run $68, but you need to get the retainers pressed out and repressed. If you don't have a press, a local machine shop should be able to do this for about $40-60 depending.
Be sure to turn the fan on full and set it on the upper section (dash) and feel to see how the air flows out the rear vent in the center council. The gate seal is known to break down and stuff up the channels. Its not hard to clean, but you have to take apart the center council to do it. Make sure it has a jack kit and spare, they are known to disappear.
Check for cracks on the wood panels. Its not the wood, its the shellac finish and runs about $150 per panel to redo properly. They may say ...just buy some off eBay. Oh contraire, the wood is matched for each car, so you may get a lighter or darker mismatched finish.
I hope this doesn't scare you away (for me its leverage to lower the price), it is a 14 yr old car after all.
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