cannot fill fuel tank
#1
cannot fill fuel tank
99 XJ
I cannot put more than a gallon or two in the tank, and even that takes 20 minutes. the fuel gauge seems accurate, but the tank simply will not accept more than a bit of fuel, leaving me always almost-empty. this has been going on for weeks so I've tried every combination already of nozzle, timing, etc.
Thanks in advance for any advice or diagnostic insight.
Also, are there any inexpensive scanners to read codes on this car?
I cannot put more than a gallon or two in the tank, and even that takes 20 minutes. the fuel gauge seems accurate, but the tank simply will not accept more than a bit of fuel, leaving me always almost-empty. this has been going on for weeks so I've tried every combination already of nozzle, timing, etc.
Thanks in advance for any advice or diagnostic insight.
Also, are there any inexpensive scanners to read codes on this car?
#2
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RE: cannot fill fuel tank
I'm prettty sure it's not a full tank because
1. i've driven 100 miles or so and filling from there is still very slow, 10minutes/gallon (i.e. i put in 0.3 gallons, wait 5 minutes, repeat),
2. the rest of the gauges including trip computer and range estimator are all consisitent.
My first guess is that it's a kinked tube or something compromising the vacuum
1. i've driven 100 miles or so and filling from there is still very slow, 10minutes/gallon (i.e. i put in 0.3 gallons, wait 5 minutes, repeat),
2. the rest of the gauges including trip computer and range estimator are all consisitent.
My first guess is that it's a kinked tube or something compromising the vacuum
#7
RE: cannot fill fuel tank
There is an air bypass passage around the upper filler neck that allows air to get out of the tank while filling, check to be sure the passages and pipesare open, or the pump will continue to shut down as the air from the tank tries to go out into the filler nozzle. It thinks gas is going intoit and shuts off. I have heard of many cases of this but no one has ever come back to say how they fixed it.
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SPIT BACK/PREMATURE SHUT-OFF
"Inspect the fuel tank, canister close valve (CCV), and vapor line for damage/restriction or blockage. Check the fuel vapor pipe from the fuel tank (inside the luggage compartment) for any signs of damage. Check under the vehicle where the pipe enters the primary carbon canister, inspect the cross-over pipe from the primary carbon canister to the secondary
carbon canister, and the secondary/canister vent to the CCV, the CCV and pipe to atmosphere for signs of damage.
If no fault is found, substitute the carbon canisters and reassess. High-pressure drop across the carbon canister(s) can be caused by internal damage or saturation of the carbon with liquid fuel. Substitution will verify this fault.
1999-2003 MY V8 XJ Series
2000-03 MY XJR
812256-F59525
F00103-F59525
Page 2 of 2 Bulletin Number 310-10 Date of issue 07/03
If all the above is OK, then determine whether the customer issue is apparent at the same filling station/pump each time. If so, recommend using an alternative filling station/pump and explain how a worn fuel dispenser nozzle can affect the fuel filling.
If the vacuum port on the fuel dispenser nozzle at the filling station pump is damaged or partially blocked, causing a restriction, the fuel dispenser nozzle will shut off prematurely. If the diaphragm inside the fuel dispenser nozzle is damaged/weak, this can also cause a premature shut-off."
Vector
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Hi guys,
Okay, so I'm at the point where I'm ready to replace the carbon canisters as the shut-off at half-tank persists when filling, as does the smell of gasoline. As my car has the twin carbon canister system, I'm just trying to determine which ones to buy. I've been scouring eBay, but all of the twin-canister systems I can find have the same part number for both left and right canisters: F5RX-9D656-CB (or CA). There doesn't seem to be a pair with individual designations for left and right, even though I am absolutely certain that mine displays separate part numbers (CB for Right and CA for left).
Does this matter, or are they the same exact same part internally, just with different numbers stamped on the case?
For reference:
00 04 Jaguar X100 XKR XK8 Charcoal Canister Pressure Valve Pair F5RX 9D656 CA | eBay
Okay, so I'm at the point where I'm ready to replace the carbon canisters as the shut-off at half-tank persists when filling, as does the smell of gasoline. As my car has the twin carbon canister system, I'm just trying to determine which ones to buy. I've been scouring eBay, but all of the twin-canister systems I can find have the same part number for both left and right canisters: F5RX-9D656-CB (or CA). There doesn't seem to be a pair with individual designations for left and right, even though I am absolutely certain that mine displays separate part numbers (CB for Right and CA for left).
Does this matter, or are they the same exact same part internally, just with different numbers stamped on the case?
For reference:
00 04 Jaguar X100 XKR XK8 Charcoal Canister Pressure Valve Pair F5RX 9D656 CA | eBay
#20
Okay I replaced both of the carbon canisters yesterday and.. no luck. The fuel system is not blocked or damaged and is free of debris, I confirmed the successful operation of the vent valve and now have replaced the carbon canisters... Is there a next step in this process? For the record, I'm not always using the same pump at the same petrol station..