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Old 12-21-2011, 09:23 AM
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I have a 2002 XJ8 VDP that i purchased used 3 months ago. It came with the in car phone. It has the antenna on the back windshield and the RJ45 port in the console. The phone itself was missing when purchased. What model phone goes with the system? Not the Star Tac phone, must be a motorola model. Reason I want the phone is to pair my blackberry via bluetooth to the system to get hands free operation. Most posters say that the phone is analog, non-bluetooth and don't waste your time. I think that may be the case but when I go to Jaguars site and visit their bluetooth connectivity page, I get a different opinion. The site has me enter my model and VIN number. I then get to a page that states my car is equipped with bluetooth pairing and gives me instructions on how to pair my blackberry to the system. Is this true? Bluetooth has been out since 1994 and thus some hope. Can anyone confirm this option in a 2002 VDP? Even if I get stuck doing one of the aftermarket bluetooth kits, it would be nice to have the original phone. Legally any cell phone is required to be able to dial emergency services regardless of a contract or analog/digital. In a worst case scenario I could dial 911 from the car assuming I left my blackberry at home. If anyone has the original in car phone manual from 2002, it would be nice to see a copy to check if the bluetooth option is available.
 
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the S type/X Type i believe had bluetooth...none of the X308 XJ's had a blue tooth option...what most of us have done is use a motorola t605 or equivalent from parot or something like that...the in car phone is pretty sweet though if you find one...it integrates nicely to all the radio and steering buttons...also you can activate the jaguar phone with page plus cellular...but keep in mind you need a jaguar motorola phone as there is special firm ware in that phone to work with the setup in the jags...but it might just be easier to install and purchase a t605 or equivalent...let me know any questions as i've been backwards and forwards on this one a few times...
 
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Thanks for the information. Any idea what the model number or brand is of the in car phone. Guessing motorola? Before doing the aftermarket bluetooth setup I would like to explore my factory options. Thanks!
 
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this is what you want...but obviously this one is very expensive...it gives you an idea what you are looking for...it has the jag logo on it as well...also the non us versions of the phone won't work so keep that in mind...if you do get rid of the factory phone setup get a non phone center cubby as it is nice having that extra space
NEW Motorola JAGUAR Timeport Sprint CDMA Cell Phone | eBay
 
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I have a 2002 XJ8 VDP that i purchased used 3 months ago. It came with the in car phone. It has the antenna on the back windshield and the RJ45 port in the console. The phone itself was missing when purchased. What model phone goes with the system? Not the Star Tac phone, must be a motorola model. Reason I want the phone is to pair my blackberry via bluetooth to the system to get hands free operation. Most posters say that the phone is analog, non-bluetooth and don't waste your time. I think that may be the case but when I go to Jaguars site and visit their bluetooth connectivity page, I get a different opinion. The site has me enter my model and VIN number. I then get to a page that states my car is equipped with bluetooth pairing and gives me instructions on how to pair my blackberry to the system. Is this true? Bluetooth has been out since 1994 and thus some hope. Can anyone confirm this option in a 2002 VDP? Even if I get stuck doing one of the aftermarket bluetooth kits, it would be nice to have the original phone. Legally any cell phone is required to be able to dial emergency services regardless of a contract or analog/digital. In a worst case scenario I could dial 911 from the car assuming I left my blackberry at home. If anyone has the original in car phone manual from 2002, it would be nice to see a copy to check if the bluetooth option is available.
I can't speak to what the bluetooth website may say, especially about one as far back as 2002. But I can tell you Jaguar never had any bluetooth setup that could be fitted to your XJ. Your car was fitted with the Motorola Timeport phone which was analog/digital. There was a later Motorola model that bridged the introduction of bluetooth, the Motorola V60i. Bluetooth, however was not fitted to anything before the advent of the D2B fiber optic audio system; which means X-Type, 2003 S-Type and XK8 and the 2004 XJ.

Attached is the phone manual for the Timeport your car had.

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Here is some more info for the dinosaur Timeport Phones.
I have 2 complete kits in boxes with manuals that are completely worthless.
I'm saving them to take to the ANTIQUES ROADSHOW someday!!!

bob gauff
 
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
Here is some more info for the dinosaur Timeport Phones.
I have 2 complete kits in boxes with manuals that are completely worthless.
I'm saving them to take to the ANTIQUES ROADSHOW someday!!!

bob gauff
I don't know if they are junk if someone is selling them on ebay for $225.00. I think it would be a good second line. If it's CDMA it can be activated for Verizon.
 
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I don't know if they are junk if someone is selling them on ebay for $225.00. I think it would be a good second line. If it's CDMA it can be activated for Verizon.
Maybe for now....... The FCC instituted a requirement several years ago that all phones be E911 capable by sometime in 2012. It implemented in two or three stages starting in 2007 I think, I have the ruling saved somewhere, I just can't find it. The E911 business means the phone be GPS capable and can be located within 50 meters or so if it makes a 911 call. I know the Timeport doesn't qualify, I'm not sure about the V60i.

All this assumes they haven't modified or delayed it since then, of course.

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Page plus cellular is one of the few places you can still activate a non e911 phone
 
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
Here is some more info for the dinosaur Timeport Phones.
I have 2 complete kits in boxes with manuals that are completely worthless.
I'm saving them to take to the ANTIQUES ROADSHOW someday!!!

bob gauff



It's hard to believe how fast technology is being propelled by lol
Once was a luxury item is now a piece of useless junk lol
 
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Technology is like Cars...the man tries to get you to replace them every few years...
 
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Looks like Mercedes cares about their customers more than Jaguar does. I came across a factory bluetooth upgrade kit for $500 that is used with the timeport/startac series phones for 99-02 on select Mercedes models. Wish we could have that option.
 
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Can you send me the info on the mercedes add on..it might work with our setup with some minor modes...
 
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I was thinking the same thing. Hope it uses the same custom firmware. Found it cheaper by more searching.

Amazon.com: Mercedes-Benz OEM Upgrade Kit for StarTAC or Timeport: Automotive
 
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I'll do some research and let you guys know what I find on if the unit would work
 
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Does anyone have a spare phone cradle for an xj8 vdp 2002. I have the console insert, phone hardware in the car and under the console, glass mounted antenna and the motorola timeport p8767 phone with custom jag firmware. Someone damaged the phone connection in the cradle that I purchased with the car and now I need a replacement for the ancient in car phone system. The wiring from the brain under the console appears to be unharmed.
 
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Have you been able to determine if the Mercedes would work with the 2002 Jaguar Startac installed in the cars?
 
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The Mercedes definitely won't work...sorry I never replied but i did check and the box that interfaces from the phone to the radio head unit is completely different between Mercedes and Jaguar
 
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i have an 03 xj8 vdp only 32000 mile on her like new with a motorolla cell phone in the center console.would love to use it but was informed it to be anolodge .not 911 compatible.is there any way to activate it????
 
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i have an 03 xj8 vdp only 32000 mile on her like new with a motorolla cell phone in the center console.would love to use it but was informed it to be anolodge .not 911 compatible.is there any way to activate it????
Networks are digital now so your analog device would have to be "hacked" or significantly modified. I've read about it being done, but I doubt it's feasible outside of the personal challenge to do so.

http://www.lincolnsonline.com/forum/...ad.php?t=77819

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