Failsafe engine mode, Please help!
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My car goes into failsafe mode whenever i drive it. I called the jaguar mechanic in minneapolis and he said it could be the transmission or a hundred different things. He said the car isnt safe to drive? any ideas on what could be causing this light to come on? the check engine light isnt on and the car does not throw any codes. thanks, Jake
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failsafe mode is a pain, and he is right, it could be a lot of things. on my car, it ended up being a bad throttle body but from what I have seen from others is it's a good idea to clean the throttle body and various electrical connectors on the MAF and whatnot. search the XJ8/R forum for "failsafe mode" or "limp home mode" and maybe you will be able to get it figured out.
good luck
good luck
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Under normal conditions a code is available; however, we have seen a few situations that a code was not present and it was related to the TB plugs. For now you can try a simple fix by cleaning your TB plugs, tighten them and reinstall the plug and see what takes place. This might help http://www.gusglikas.com/AutoRepTB.htm Let us know how that works.
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I had the same problem with my 2004 VDP. First step was to clean the Throttle Body and and recalibrate the sensor. This worked for 3 months and then had the same problem again- driving along and car goes into limp mode when removing your foot from the accelerator. Jaguar dealer scanned and determined that the Throttle position sensor on the side of the Throttle Body was bad. They also said that this was a common problem, but not enough for a recall of course. The TPS can be replaced except for the fact that it can not be purchased seperatly. It comes attached to the TB and you have to purchase the whole thing. To the tune of $1260 U.S. installed.
Having reseached and spoken to other Jaguar drivers, this price actually was not as bad as I had heard and seen. Some where $3000.
car is working fine now and enjoying the car again. ...the price you pay to have such a fine vehicle.
Having reseached and spoken to other Jaguar drivers, this price actually was not as bad as I had heard and seen. Some where $3000.
car is working fine now and enjoying the car again. ...the price you pay to have such a fine vehicle.
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Had the same issue on my 99VDP....
After searching and reading all the posts, I decided to start with replacing the brake switch. $70 later the warning light is gone and I can use my cruise control again...![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
When I pulled the old brake switch out, I tested it with multimeter, and found that even in "closed" postion, the micro switch had a resistance of about 30ohm, as opposed to ~0... That was enough to trip the computer into thinking that brake is being applied. If I had more time, I could have soldered on a new swith myself for less than $1....
After searching and reading all the posts, I decided to start with replacing the brake switch. $70 later the warning light is gone and I can use my cruise control again...
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When I pulled the old brake switch out, I tested it with multimeter, and found that even in "closed" postion, the micro switch had a resistance of about 30ohm, as opposed to ~0... That was enough to trip the computer into thinking that brake is being applied. If I had more time, I could have soldered on a new swith myself for less than $1....
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If you end up with wanting to replace the throttlebody, there is a place in Tenn, which will check your throttle body and rebuild it for $299. They rebuild CPU/ECu's, ABS sensors and throttlebodies. There are a few of us who have had our brains rebuilt with great success. Check Jamesjag thread for the info. At this price, itz cheaper than having the dealer just look at it. They list rebuilding on ebay. Their user name is ate1234. I can send you a link or phone number if you want it.
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After consulting with the experts here, I was told the following:
Take the Jag to the dealer, and tell the the service manager to tell the mechanic to set a OBDII code to identify the problem. Get a print out of the results. That way you are not getting charged for something that is not wrong with the car.
My problem was the cruise control module.
Good luck and I hope it's not a major item.
Take the Jag to the dealer, and tell the the service manager to tell the mechanic to set a OBDII code to identify the problem. Get a print out of the results. That way you are not getting charged for something that is not wrong with the car.
My problem was the cruise control module.
Good luck and I hope it's not a major item.
My car goes into failsafe mode whenever i drive it. I called the jaguar mechanic in minneapolis and he said it could be the transmission or a hundred different things. He said the car isnt safe to drive? any ideas on what could be causing this light to come on? the check engine light isnt on and the car does not throw any codes. thanks, Jake
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My car goes into failsafe mode whenever i drive it. I called the jaguar mechanic in minneapolis and he said it could be the transmission or a hundred different things. He said the car isnt safe to drive? any ideas on what could be causing this light to come on? the check engine light isnt on and the car does not throw any codes. thanks, Jake
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I had the same issue....in my case i had to have the throttle body cleaned and that solved the problem for about 6 months. Then it started again. Drive along at 70 mph and when you would let off the accellerator it would go into limp mode. Pull over, turn off car, restart and it would run fine til I let off the accelerator again.
Finally had to have the sensor on the throttle body replaced...only problem is- Jaguar does not sell just that sensor...it comes on the throttle body so you have to buy the whole thing. I saw some quotes as high as $3000 for this at Jag dealers and non Jag repair shops. Nalley Jaguar in Roswell, GA did it for me and was very fair with price and did a great job. Very good staff and techs. It cost me about $1300. I have not had a problem since and it runs great.
2004 VDP.
Steve
Finally had to have the sensor on the throttle body replaced...only problem is- Jaguar does not sell just that sensor...it comes on the throttle body so you have to buy the whole thing. I saw some quotes as high as $3000 for this at Jag dealers and non Jag repair shops. Nalley Jaguar in Roswell, GA did it for me and was very fair with price and did a great job. Very good staff and techs. It cost me about $1300. I have not had a problem since and it runs great.
2004 VDP.
Steve
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If you end up with wanting to replace the throttlebody, there is a place in Tenn, which will check your throttle body and rebuild it for $299. They rebuild CPU/ECu's, ABS sensors and throttlebodies. There are a few of us who have had our brains rebuilt with great success. Check Jamesjag thread for the info. At this price, itz cheaper than having the dealer just look at it. They list rebuilding on ebay. Their user name is ate1234. I can send you a link or phone number if you want it.
Is replacing the TB unit a DIY job, or are there special tools to R & R this item?
thx
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I would do a TB myself, as I had to remove it to get the supercharger out.
I am reposting here again, because the first car I fixed earlier in this post has the problem again, but it presents differently. Before, when I applied the brakes and the car was in cruise control mode, it went into failsafe. I replaced the brakelight switch and the problem was solved. This worked for my other xjr as well. Several monts later, the first car I fixed goes into failsafe as soon as I push the button to enable the cruise control. I would be interested in knowing both the location of the cruise control module and its part number.
I am reposting here again, because the first car I fixed earlier in this post has the problem again, but it presents differently. Before, when I applied the brakes and the car was in cruise control mode, it went into failsafe. I replaced the brakelight switch and the problem was solved. This worked for my other xjr as well. Several monts later, the first car I fixed goes into failsafe as soon as I push the button to enable the cruise control. I would be interested in knowing both the location of the cruise control module and its part number.