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First Big Issue with the Jag.

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Old 08-04-2014, 11:51 PM
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So at about 70k i decided to do a transmission service at the shop i work at.
(I now have about 72.5k) 500 miles later after the service, every time I reverse and go to drive the trans kicks hard and some times when i cam to a stop and accelerated it would also kick some of the time but not as hard. I've had it at a trans shop today they told me $2,700 for a rebuild. I also had my diagnostic computer on it when i had it at the shop and reset any parameters to do with driving just so i had a clean slate to start with. still nothing.

Have any of you guys came across an issue like this?

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Old 08-05-2014, 12:52 AM
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What model and year?
 
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If the car is a X308 it probably means the A drum is failing. Was the service a transmission flush? There have been several warnings about not doing that because of the risk of disturbing abrasive particles and leaving them suspended. But it might also just be coincidence.
 

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Old 08-05-2014, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by smtguy
What model and year?
Like he said, year, make, and model. Is it a 97 XJ8, 03XJR? There are different trans in different models. It helps the board to give as much info as you can.

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I do apologize about that. it is a 2003 xj8 sport. it was a standard transmission service with dropping the pan, replacing the filter with fluids. The trans is a ZF 5HP25.
 

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Old 08-05-2014, 09:40 AM
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I think you mean 5HP24. I does sound like a A drum failure, like I said. It's unfortunate that you didn't replace the main pressure valve with the upgrade from ZF, but the drum may have already had a crack started.
 
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:47 AM
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Is there any chance that there is simply not enough oil? Did you do the service yourself? If just doing filters there is a fancy procedure how to fill the transmission to the right level. Something like "fill until slowly dripping out at a certain temp at certain rpm".
 
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Is there any chance that there is simply not enough oil? Did you do the service yourself? If just doing filters there is a fancy procedure how to fill the transmission to the right level. Something like "fill until slowly dripping out at a certain temp at certain rpm".
I did do the service myself but when I took it to my buddies trans shop he told me that fluid levels were over filled just a smidge so that will not cause the issue I have. I have heard of this drum failing since I also drive a 2001 bmw 530i, mine is a manual trans but on the forums I've seen the topic float around about this drum on automatic models. Well... since I work in a shop, how hard is to replace this drum or any real special tools to use or proper placement procedures?
 
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If you do a search on the forums for rebuild of transmission or 5HP24, you should find lots of help, even DIY with pictures. Also check jagrepair.com. It is not difficult or expensive.
 
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I did a bit of forum searching and found that the drum and the valve with in the valve body goes bad inside the transmission. I will have to contact Transtar and see what these will run me.
 
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I believe several members have purchased updated A drums and associated parts from ebay vendors. Sunbelt appears to be a good source for a valve body rebuild, probably a good idea at this point.

AW55-50, O1M, JF506E, 5R55e, 09G Valve Body Replacement

Replacing the transmission with a used one would not be wise, in my opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by RJ237
I believe several members have purchased updated A drums and associated parts from ebay vendors. Sunbelt appears to be a good source for a valve body rebuild, probably a good idea at this point.

AW55-50, O1M, JF506E, 5R55e, 09G Valve Body Replacement

Replacing the transmission with a used one would not be wise, in my opinion.
I work in an auto shop and we did a used transmission on a 2000 mitsu Montero sport. The darn thing blew up 1000 miles later. After seeing that I will never buy a used transmission.
 
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Also could someone tell me what the name of the valve that goes bad in these as far as when you go into drive and or reverse. I might give that a shot first before gutting the trans and getting into a world I have not been to before.
 
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Hope this helps, Blighty forum

ZF 5HP24 Valve Body Fault

And a forum member that might help as he's familiar with the job, I'm not....yet
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-bmw-x5-66718/
 

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