Grrrrrr...First experience at the Dealership
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My 99 XJ8 came with only 1 key and remote.
Went to the dealer in Farmington Hills, MI. and they told me the folowing:
Transponder key cut only - $95
Program Key - $115.00
Remote - $225.00
Program Remote - $115.00
To be safe, I paid $95.00 for a copy without programming because the car was not with me at the time. I knew that if I lost the original key before I got the car to the dealer for programming, that I'd be able to at least get in the car to put it in neutra for the tow truck driver.
The worst part is, I tried the key this morning and it does not work!![Icon Rant](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_rant.gif)
It won't do anthing except lock the driver door. No unlock, no go in the ignition.
I knew that the likelyhood of the car being rekeyed always exists so I gave them the original key to match it up.
Now that I'm done with my rant...how do these keys work? I'm familar with the profiles of regular keys and how they move the tumblers. On these, I'm clueless. I assume it has to do with the height the key is cut to so I'm going to get out the calipers and compare, but some real insight would help.
Thanks,
Ken
Went to the dealer in Farmington Hills, MI. and they told me the folowing:
Transponder key cut only - $95
Program Key - $115.00
Remote - $225.00
Program Remote - $115.00
To be safe, I paid $95.00 for a copy without programming because the car was not with me at the time. I knew that if I lost the original key before I got the car to the dealer for programming, that I'd be able to at least get in the car to put it in neutra for the tow truck driver.
The worst part is, I tried the key this morning and it does not work!
![Icon Rant](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_rant.gif)
It won't do anthing except lock the driver door. No unlock, no go in the ignition.
I knew that the likelyhood of the car being rekeyed always exists so I gave them the original key to match it up.
Now that I'm done with my rant...how do these keys work? I'm familar with the profiles of regular keys and how they move the tumblers. On these, I'm clueless. I assume it has to do with the height the key is cut to so I'm going to get out the calipers and compare, but some real insight would help.
Thanks,
Ken
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I payed same amount at dealer for my new key, with remote and programming.On my remark that with $500 i could make one from Gold, the manager told me ,yes, you could, but it would only open the door and no more than that. So BRUTAL is absolute right, once you put the key in the ignition, the engine regognises if its fake ,or not, and only then starts!
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"It won't do anthing except lock the driver door. No unlock, no go in the ignition".
All TIBBE keys will LOCK the driver's door but only the correct key will UNLOCK or operate the ignition. Put both keys side-by-side and see if the cuts are identical. They probably cut yours by the VIN and looked it up on the Jaguar secure website. I have seen alot of cars that the info was wrong regarding Key Codes and Radio Codes. The sure way to get it cut correctly is to give them your original operating key and tell them to MATCH it.
You can programme your own new remote with the headlamp flash procedure.
bob gauff
All TIBBE keys will LOCK the driver's door but only the correct key will UNLOCK or operate the ignition. Put both keys side-by-side and see if the cuts are identical. They probably cut yours by the VIN and looked it up on the Jaguar secure website. I have seen alot of cars that the info was wrong regarding Key Codes and Radio Codes. The sure way to get it cut correctly is to give them your original operating key and tell them to MATCH it.
You can programme your own new remote with the headlamp flash procedure.
bob gauff
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. . . . and buy a used remote on eBay for less than $50, sometimes, much less.
The programming instructions are posted under the XK8/R FAQ sticky here:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=29800
Nothing difficult.
The programming instructions are posted under the XK8/R FAQ sticky here:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=29800
Nothing difficult.
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BTW the tips of the keys do look different. I'll post a pic in a few.
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those pics are alittle hard to see clearly, you also need side shots of all 4 sides. really look for misscuts on both sides, cause I dont know if its the light, but the 2nd key cut on the right doesnt match the left. (1st cut starts from the plastic thumb side) the 2nd cut looks miscut, also lube your locks many times new keys are sharp cut and locks a sticky leading to no turning, make sure the cut are alittle smoothed. They are supposed to wire wheel them after cutting(thats why theres a wire wheel on the key machine to smooth the cuts)
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The green key is the Valet key and will not open the trunk and glovebox. I use our Valet and a remote so when I leave the car I give them that key and I use the valet button to prevent anyone from getting into the trunk. If you do not touch the valet button you can open the trunk with the trunk open button on the dash or the remote if you have one.
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Ok....I went back to the dealer today. Turns out the guy that cut the key was not the best one at "Aging" the key. I came back about an hour later and took the key home to find that it works perfectly now.
I'm not sure if they "aged" it or recut it. All I know is that it now works.
Thanks to everyone for your inputs.
Ken
I'm not sure if they "aged" it or recut it. All I know is that it now works.
Thanks to everyone for your inputs.
Ken
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