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Interesting. What should the MAF read? My long term fuel trims had been running slightly positive (+3.9 - 4.7, but equal both banks), but in the last couple weeks going hight (+7.5) indicating an air leak somewhere. Doubled up the O-ring on the dipstick and that brought it back towards zero, but often as not in +5.0 range.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the tread.
Maybe the third task would be to clean the coils . . . and also the connections to the MAF sensor. What did the plugs look like?
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the tread.
Maybe the third task would be to clean the coils . . . and also the connections to the MAF sensor. What did the plugs look like?
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bigcat777 (11-01-2015)
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Jim- Cleaned the MAF and connectors, hadn't thought to check the plugs. Just replaced last year, but they could still give information. Just completed the fuel filter change, very dirty of course. I will update after test drive and morning start up to see if that resolved any of the issues. Thanks
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My MAF didn't cause any codes. Your symptoms are worse than mine though, so I would think it would be more likely to set a code if it was the MAF, but I don't know.
My test equipment only shows lb/MN for MAF, so I really don't know what the mechanic was referring to when he said "reading a little high".
My test equipment only shows lb/MN for MAF, so I really don't know what the mechanic was referring to when he said "reading a little high".
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Must not have solved the problem. Now the car has stalled three times while commuting, interesting it stalls when I am going downhill. What's up with that? I will go and look through other threads for answers...I do notice oil in the air filter, and oil leaking near spark plug cover. I will pull cover and check plugs, just changed plugs last year. It begins once again. Start up is just fine after MAF cleaning and new fuel filter.
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Follow up question. Can you get codes if there never was a check engine light? Through this whole process, I never have received a "check engine " message. Could I jus go have someone plug in a code reader and codes would appear? Stupid questions but I guess I don't understand the process, I assume if the car dies, a check engine light would appear, then you get it read, then go after the problem. Thanks guys.
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Yes you can have codes stored. A local auto parts store should be willing to check for codes.
Taking in consideration the oil in the air filter, which might indicate a blockage of the partial flow breather, you should probably clean that, the intake tube and the throttle body. All are easy and the procedures are available in the DIY or jagrepair.com.
But do not spray cleaner into the throttle body. Spray it on a rag and use that, making sure the butterfly and the body are both clean. A buildup of gunk around the butterfly can often result in shutdown when the pedal is released.`
Taking in consideration the oil in the air filter, which might indicate a blockage of the partial flow breather, you should probably clean that, the intake tube and the throttle body. All are easy and the procedures are available in the DIY or jagrepair.com.
But do not spray cleaner into the throttle body. Spray it on a rag and use that, making sure the butterfly and the body are both clean. A buildup of gunk around the butterfly can often result in shutdown when the pedal is released.`
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bigcat777 (11-06-2015)
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P1111 is the good code; all checks accomplished. If no other codes, it is a mechanical issue.
Follow RJ's instructions: clean the throttle bore and plate; carefully clean the part load breather (Google or search for how to do it, the diameter and depth for inserting the drill bit is critical); take the slack out of throttle cable; check to assure all connections from the air cleaner to throttle body are air tight.
Oil in the air filter housing is a problem (The air filter is clean, right?): spray MAF cleaner on the MAF sensor again. Is there oil in the spark plug wells? If you can find it, BG44 in a tank of gas might help (although I don't think dirty injectors are causing your issue).
Follow RJ's instructions: clean the throttle bore and plate; carefully clean the part load breather (Google or search for how to do it, the diameter and depth for inserting the drill bit is critical); take the slack out of throttle cable; check to assure all connections from the air cleaner to throttle body are air tight.
Oil in the air filter housing is a problem (The air filter is clean, right?): spray MAF cleaner on the MAF sensor again. Is there oil in the spark plug wells? If you can find it, BG44 in a tank of gas might help (although I don't think dirty injectors are causing your issue).
Last edited by Jhartz; 11-07-2015 at 01:29 PM.
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bigcat777 (11-07-2015)
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Jim- Here is what I found. After removing coils, two plug wells were filled with oil. Removed cam cover and discovered that one side of figure eight plug gasket was totally destroyed and found the pieces in the valve area. Holy crap. Just a matter of time before those pieces caused major problems. If I didn't check the plugs would have missed everything. I am ordering new gasket set with new figure eight gaskets, hope this will solve the problems. Have been cleaning all parts just to be sure and will replace the plugs while I am in there. You guys may have saved my car. HUGE thanks. I will post update, sorry no pics to see.
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