Just stopped along the nj turnpike in my 201 xjr to make a phone call. Turned off car for 5 minutes.

Just turned key, she starts right up, idles for a few seconds and then dies on her own or if I give her any fuel.

Any ideas before I have to call the tow truck?

Thanks.

 

If there is no timing chain noise, fuel pump would be the first suspect. Tow truck either way

 

I feel for you. I vote for the fuel pump also Happened to my '01 XJ8. Good luck.

 

Thanks. She got a ride to the ******* on the flatbed.

I suspect the pump. Did try swapping out the relays but no change.

Ah well, now I can have a $1,000 dollar cup of coffee at the ***********.

 

Dealer(Jaguar of willow grove) just called and confirmed it is the fuel pump. They quoted $2400 for parts and labor. I think I am getting raped but car is stuck there.

 

Wow, that is sad. I hope they're at least replacing both fuel pumps for that price.

 

Ouch.

 

Yes. Not sure if this is coincidence but at my last fill up, about 150 miles ago, I added a bottle of Techron.

 

Update - contact forum member Jagtec1. He is north of Philly (response in the northeast Jaguar techs section - "Feel free to PM me if you need work done. I am in the northern suburbs of Philadelphia").

We had our 2001 XJ8 fuel pump replaced April 2008 at our local Jaguar Dealer - Fuel pump was $185 plus $350 (3.5 hrs @ $100/hr) and Lead Link wire was $135 installed.

Fuel Pump part# is JLM20756 - Welsh Engineering sell them for $105 each plus shipping $12.14. Welsh does not sell the fuel pump lead link wire - part# LNC3360CA (Gaugin Jaguar has it priced at around $120 to $135 with shipping). Gaugin price for fuel pump is around $373 each with shipping.

Well this gives an idea about competitive pricing (might have to call Welsh to make sure the pump is an OEM part).

Call the dealership and see if you can ask for a better price, also try calling some of the indy mechanic shops in your area for some more realistic prices - maybe you can find one that will let you buy the fuel pump(s) from Welsh and also will have a better deal on the labor costs.

Alldata has the std labor hours to replace fuel pump at 3.6 hrs.

Jim Lombardi

 

Omfg!!! 2400 bucks!!! I would have had it towed again to my back yard!!! Me and my dad did it for 70 bucks and a few beer! Took us most the day to pull out the tank change filter and pumps. Hope u got lubed before they screwed ya. I never take any of my cars to a dealer.

 

Can anyone chime in with the book labor hours for this job? If the pump is $400 that leaves around $1900 after removing taxes. If it is around 8 hours (with proper tools and experience I would expect this to be the time) that is $237.50/hr labor...

Maybe they have attorneys turning wrenches there.

 

Hi Dave
The book labor hours for the fuel pump is 3.6 hours. If the 2 fuel pumps are replaced then maybe $800 for parts and $432 labor - total max around $1350. Also if it needs the fuel pump lead link add another $200 max.

I do not understand the how the price can be $2400.

Jim Lombardi

 

Some good news. They just called and said it is done. They said it did not need a "fuel flange" which us often replaced so total is $1,300. Still a lot but not nearly as painful as $2,400.

 

The Evaporative loss flange is part# NNA5954AB is it price in the area of $150 to $200 for a new one depending upon where you buy it.

Jim Lombardi

 

That sounds like a bit more sane number.

 

Dealers DO have a huge overhead, I know, I used to be one. Someone has to pay for this, but I refuse to be the one. So far it hasn't happened to the Jags, but it did happen to my daughter's Audi. In any case, the car gets towed to MY ranch, I stash it in the barn, and go shopping for parts (on the web). If I have time on hand, I get down and dirty with it, if not, I call my mechanic, and he comes to the ranch with his tools (I don't share mine), and fixes it (whatever it is) right there. I understand this is not everyone's option, but taking the old X308 to the dealer, is inviting the trouble! If the dealer in the OP was dishonest (a LOT of them are), this simple fuel pump failure would cost half the value of the car. Now THAT is insane!

There are honest Indy shops in the OP's area, I'm sure. He should search, ask questions, and check references for the few of them, and then pick the one that's most convenient. X308 is not a "dealer maintenance only" car. Once you take a 10-15 year old car on the road, you NEVER know what will fail at what point, and you better have a plan (AAA towing, where to, where to source the parts, etc.).

 

Daniel
I fully agree with you. there are 2 different local Indy shops in our area that are very skilled and have the know how to fix these X308 at a very reasonable service rate. They even allow me to get the parts wherever I can find them at the lowest price.

Jim Lombardi

 

Picked it up today. They did replace the two pumps, the lead link, fuel filter, some gaskets and bits. Came to $1,300 with tax but I did get a $100 certificate for future use and used another certificate that I already had worth $50 off. So, for dealer service I guess not to insane.

Yes, I usually do most services on my vehicles right at home. Just did the rear wheel bearings on my E28 BMW, that was fun. Unfortunately, when car dies at night along the road, your options are fewer. Yes, AAA Platinum is worth every penny if you drive older cars.

I've had mixed luck with Indy shops. Back in the day my S-III had a no start situation and it spent over a week at a very well respected Indy Jag shop. I remember posting in the forums and a master tech named Michael Neil insisted that it had to be a timing issue even thogh the shop said timing was spot on. After shop finally gave up and said I should take it to the dealer I went over there and looked at it next to another S-3 where the hood was open. Noticed distributors were pointing in entirely different directions. reached down, turned the distributor to same as other car and she started. Shop then had the nerve to tryband charge me for the time they spent diagnosing the problem. I sold The Jag and did not return to the marque for many years.