P0101, P0172, and P0175 Codes
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P0101, P0172, and P0175 Codes
I am new to the boards. What a great resource of the modern generation.
I have been having some intermittent problems with my 2000 XJR (104K mi). For the last several months I have been getting "Restricted Performance" and CEL illuminating. When they say Restricted Performance, it is true. Stepping on the gas pedal has little effect on forward motion. It seems to happen more often when stopped at a light. As soon as I start to accelerate, the car stumbles then CEL comes on and then the dreaded "Restricted Performance" message. As I crawl away from the light, I find a place to pull over and shut down and restart the engine. This resets the problem and then I can carry on driving.
I was perplexed in the beginning. No codes!! Just P1000 which I cannot figure out or erase. Finally about a month ago, after several incidents, I finally was able to pull codes. P0172 (Bank 1 too rich) and P0175 (Bank 2 too rich) with P1000 still there. Just a few days ago, the codes were accompanied by a P0101 (Mass Airflow Range Performance).
So I do not want to replace the MAF just to find the codes to return. I have cleaned the MAF about 6-8 months ago with the proper CRC fluid. I suspect O2 sensors. BTW, The exhaust tips do appear to have more soot than normal. I am still getting 15 mpg. Go figure?
Any Ideas where to start?
Thanks!
Doug
I have been having some intermittent problems with my 2000 XJR (104K mi). For the last several months I have been getting "Restricted Performance" and CEL illuminating. When they say Restricted Performance, it is true. Stepping on the gas pedal has little effect on forward motion. It seems to happen more often when stopped at a light. As soon as I start to accelerate, the car stumbles then CEL comes on and then the dreaded "Restricted Performance" message. As I crawl away from the light, I find a place to pull over and shut down and restart the engine. This resets the problem and then I can carry on driving.
I was perplexed in the beginning. No codes!! Just P1000 which I cannot figure out or erase. Finally about a month ago, after several incidents, I finally was able to pull codes. P0172 (Bank 1 too rich) and P0175 (Bank 2 too rich) with P1000 still there. Just a few days ago, the codes were accompanied by a P0101 (Mass Airflow Range Performance).
So I do not want to replace the MAF just to find the codes to return. I have cleaned the MAF about 6-8 months ago with the proper CRC fluid. I suspect O2 sensors. BTW, The exhaust tips do appear to have more soot than normal. I am still getting 15 mpg. Go figure?
Any Ideas where to start?
Thanks!
Doug
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I just had the same issues. Your maf sensor most likely is dirty. Take your breather hose off and remove the MAF sensor. Get some electronic cleaner that you can spray in there. Do not touch the wires inside the sensor, just spray them a few times, let them dry, spray etc. Clean the air hose out. Make sure your throttle body is clean and make sure the part load breather tube on each side of the cam is clean. Search the forum because there is alot written up about this issue. Once you clean all these parts, and reassemble plug the sensor back in. I would also leave the battery negative cable dissconnected at least 2 hours and let the system reset. It will correct your issue. Mine has run fine the last 3 days after doing all this.
#3
Running too rich on both banks? That usually means an air leak upstream from MAF. She is sucking air somewhere. Take the air intake off, clean the MAF (as suggested), and check the intake for any cracks, holes, and such. Also make sure that the MAF gaskets are tight. P1000 is just a self diagnostic code, nothing to worry about.
I'll be in Newport Beach all day tomorrow and I have my scanner with me. If I can be of any help, let me know.
The easiest way to check for the leak, is the "cigar method". With engine off, take off the part load breather hose off, clean the tip (or not if you like the taste of the motor oil!), light up a cigar (a cheap one, NOT Cuban!), and blow smoke into the pipe. The smoke WILL come out wherever the system is breached. The breach could be in many places, but my bet is on the air intake and/or TB.
I'll be in Newport Beach all day tomorrow and I have my scanner with me. If I can be of any help, let me know.
The easiest way to check for the leak, is the "cigar method". With engine off, take off the part load breather hose off, clean the tip (or not if you like the taste of the motor oil!), light up a cigar (a cheap one, NOT Cuban!), and blow smoke into the pipe. The smoke WILL come out wherever the system is breached. The breach could be in many places, but my bet is on the air intake and/or TB.
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Thanks for the tips coastaljag98 and danielsand. I have cleaned the MAF several months ago. But I can try that again. I will check for leaks as well.
Danielsand - what time will you be leaving Newport today? I get home about 5:45 in Huntington Beach. PM me if you will be available this eve.
Thanks!!
Danielsand - what time will you be leaving Newport today? I get home about 5:45 in Huntington Beach. PM me if you will be available this eve.
Thanks!!
#5
This fault can also be caused by the pins on the MAF not making proper strong contact with the connector & this has been cured by slightly bending the pins on the MAF, so they make solid contact with the connector.
Have a read of this article:
Running Rich - P0172 & P0175 | Jeeves and the Jaguar
As stated by Danielsand, P1000 is not an actual fault-it simply means that the system hasn't yet completed all of it's drive cycle tests & that depends on how you drive the car.
Have a read of this article:
Running Rich - P0172 & P0175 | Jeeves and the Jaguar
As stated by Danielsand, P1000 is not an actual fault-it simply means that the system hasn't yet completed all of it's drive cycle tests & that depends on how you drive the car.
#6
Drive Cycle
Well, just to throw this out there in case it is of any help - If you've been driving the car around for months (without a code reset) and it's still showing a P1000, then there may be a sensor that is not reporting it's status to the ECU thus preventing the car from ever completing the drive cycle and changing to a P1111. Even if you have other codes the P1000 should go away after a certain period of time and drive cycles. Just a thought ...
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P0101, P0172, and P0175
OK gents, I don't like to ask for help but this has me in a quandary!
2000 XKR with 68k miles, Fault codes P0101, P0172, and P0175, rich on both banks and MAF is out of limits, happens after every 3rd drive. Reset faults, runs like a top for 3 drives.....100 miles maybe if you don't stop and shut it off and it will light up the rear end if traction control is off, so I think structurally, the motor is strong.
I have cleaned the throttle body, Cleaned the MAF sensor, Replaced the MAF sensor, replaced the Coolant temp sensor and thermostat, verified the passenger side part load breather tube is clear, (the driver side is smaller and runs under the supercharger and it faults both banks so I didn't think it was worth it), battery is new and strong.
I've reset all codes with carsoft I930.......... 1st trip good, second trip good, ...during 3rd trip get CEL, Reduced Perf Message and all 3 codes again.
I'm starting to get a little miffed at this thing.........And the fact that it happens on every 3rd trip should be a clue, but, hell if I can find out why!!!!
And yes...."Vroom" is my actual last name.
Any advice you can add would be greatly appreciated.
TV
2000 XKR with 68k miles, Fault codes P0101, P0172, and P0175, rich on both banks and MAF is out of limits, happens after every 3rd drive. Reset faults, runs like a top for 3 drives.....100 miles maybe if you don't stop and shut it off and it will light up the rear end if traction control is off, so I think structurally, the motor is strong.
I have cleaned the throttle body, Cleaned the MAF sensor, Replaced the MAF sensor, replaced the Coolant temp sensor and thermostat, verified the passenger side part load breather tube is clear, (the driver side is smaller and runs under the supercharger and it faults both banks so I didn't think it was worth it), battery is new and strong.
I've reset all codes with carsoft I930.......... 1st trip good, second trip good, ...during 3rd trip get CEL, Reduced Perf Message and all 3 codes again.
I'm starting to get a little miffed at this thing.........And the fact that it happens on every 3rd trip should be a clue, but, hell if I can find out why!!!!
And yes...."Vroom" is my actual last name.
Any advice you can add would be greatly appreciated.
TV
#9
Your problem could be due to dirty/corroded pins in the connector that plugs to the MAF. Check the pins and give them a good clean with some electronic cleaning spray. If, perhaps, there is dielectric grease inside the connector, you will have to thoroughly clean it out as this is a wrong place to use the grease. You can also get a new connector at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-5-...oAAOSw241Yb~zF
It is quite likely that the main problem is what is shown under code P0101 and that the other two codes are just a consequence.
It is quite likely that the main problem is what is shown under code P0101 and that the other two codes are just a consequence.
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1. Large rectangular gasket between the elbow and the supercharger
2. Gasket between TB and the elbow
3. O-ring between elbow and the bypass valve
4. Large rubber seal on top of the TB for the plastic intake tube
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OK, just thinking, "IF" I have a vacuum leak downstream of the MAFS, and in theory less air is passing over the MAFS, wouldn't the PCM meter "LESS" fuel to the injection system? And, "IF" that is true, why would I get P0172 and P0175 (both banks too rich) at exactly the same time as the P0101 fault.
When you have time you quandary things!
Thanks for any input that might help me.
Tom
When you have time you quandary things!
Thanks for any input that might help me.
Tom
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OK, just thinking, "IF" I have a vacuum leak downstream of the MAFS, and in theory less air is passing over the MAFS, wouldn't the PCM meter "LESS" fuel to the injection system? And, "IF" that is true, why would I get P0172 and P0175 (both banks too rich) at exactly the same time as the P0101 fault.
The intake leak is not the only possible cause but, since you have the puffing noise, you should investigate and fix.
If checking/fixing the seals and vacuum hoses around the TB and checking/replacing of the Purge Valve does not solve the problem, you may still have some fault, if not in the MAF itself or in its connector, somewhere along the wiring from the MAF to the ECM.
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