Rebuilding powerfold mirrors
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Rather than basing the design on the CAD file, one could ship the gear assembly to https://www.protiq.com.
This is the approach I adopted with the guy than built my 2 stainless steel parts in the first place (I did not have any CAD file at that time and that did not prevent him to built two perfect parts, before refusing to build anyone anymore)
Unfortunately the spare mechanism I had, had never been returned by the second guy I contacted more recently to try to get a second source.
This is the approach I adopted with the guy than built my 2 stainless steel parts in the first place (I did not have any CAD file at that time and that did not prevent him to built two perfect parts, before refusing to build anyone anymore)
Unfortunately the spare mechanism I had, had never been returned by the second guy I contacted more recently to try to get a second source.
#82
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Ok, I‘ll check accuracy with Protiq and if it‘s better than, let‘s say, 0.5mm I’ll order a prototype. I think that accuracy should be ok, even my cheap Anet A8 3D printer prints (after some tuning) with 0.1 mm.
I‘ve asked them whether the prototype would be printed with stainless steel, they answered that it could also be printed with plastic, but they don‘t believe it would resist a real testing. An alternative would be printing with PA12 which is a hard polyamide. They think that it could even be used as final part, and it would only cost 20 Euro.
I won‘t be able to get the mirror off the car before end of march. Bruno. The file you#ve posted in post #49 is the final one, correct?
Best regards
Martin
I‘ve asked them whether the prototype would be printed with stainless steel, they answered that it could also be printed with plastic, but they don‘t believe it would resist a real testing. An alternative would be printing with PA12 which is a hard polyamide. They think that it could even be used as final part, and it would only cost 20 Euro.
I won‘t be able to get the mirror off the car before end of march. Bruno. The file you#ve posted in post #49 is the final one, correct?
Best regards
Martin
yes it is the final CAD I have made.
I would tend to believe printing is accurate enough. I just ordered on ebay a replacement gear set for a Parmiggiano cheese grinder and it was a perfect fit. The bad news is that it only lasted half an hour. Not sure what plastic compound they used for the printing but obviously it was less robust than the original (also plastic) gear set.
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They can, and I've ordered a PA12 prototype.
In order to be printed (or uploaded to their WebUI), the igs file needs to be converted into stl format first. When loaded into a slicer, errors are reported (open surfaces), but the Repetier slicer, and also the Protiq WebUI, are able to fix them automatically.
If you upload the file at https://www.protiq.com/en/configurator/ , you can see the prices for different materials. After having checked the file, they told me that using 1.4404 stainless steel, one piece would cost 309 € net, 2 pieces 182,50 €/pc, 10 pieces 73,70 €/pc net. I've asked for the prices for 15, 20, 50 etc.
In order to be printed (or uploaded to their WebUI), the igs file needs to be converted into stl format first. When loaded into a slicer, errors are reported (open surfaces), but the Repetier slicer, and also the Protiq WebUI, are able to fix them automatically.
If you upload the file at https://www.protiq.com/en/configurator/ , you can see the prices for different materials. After having checked the file, they told me that using 1.4404 stainless steel, one piece would cost 309 € net, 2 pieces 182,50 €/pc, 10 pieces 73,70 €/pc net. I've asked for the prices for 15, 20, 50 etc.
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The guy just answered me sending the prices. He has made a mistake with the prices I've quoted in #87 because he had selected different printing filament. The correct prices for 1.4404 stainless steel are
plus VAT and shipping.
If the prototype works ok, and there are more cat owners interested in getting one, I could perhaps order 10 pieces for a start. Let me know!
1x: 254 €/Stück
2x: 149,50 €/Stück
10x: 56,40 €/Stück
15x: 51,33 €/Stück
20x: 49,35 €/Stück
30x: 47,47 €/Stück
40x: 46,58 €/Stück
2x: 149,50 €/Stück
10x: 56,40 €/Stück
15x: 51,33 €/Stück
20x: 49,35 €/Stück
30x: 47,47 €/Stück
40x: 46,58 €/Stück
If the prototype works ok, and there are more cat owners interested in getting one, I could perhaps order 10 pieces for a start. Let me know!
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I am sure several members of sovejag forum in France would order. I can also reactivate some of the personnal messages I received along this 10-years-long thread, in case they would be still interested.
Also I noticed that autoreservejaguar now explicitely mention the following on his used powerfold mirror ads:
" POWERFOLDING MECHANISM NOT TESTED AND NOT UNDER WARRANTY - these are notoriously unreliable due to folding out to the wrong position. For info on rebuilding we recommend view thread number 92084 on the Jaguarforums website."
Also I noticed that autoreservejaguar now explicitely mention the following on his used powerfold mirror ads:
" POWERFOLDING MECHANISM NOT TESTED AND NOT UNDER WARRANTY - these are notoriously unreliable due to folding out to the wrong position. For info on rebuilding we recommend view thread number 92084 on the Jaguarforums website."
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If the prototype works ok, I‘ll buy two for my DDS, of course. As presumably every Jaguar with Powerfold mirrors from those years will run into this problem sooner or later, I believe that there are many owners out there that might be interested, once the news of the availabilty of the spare part is spread. Perhaps I can convince Protiq to produce a number of pieces and sell them directly. Would be easier in terms of payment and shipping.
The question is whether PA12 is durable enough or we had better go for stainless right from the beginning. Well, I‘ll see how it performs…
And of course you‘ll have a firm place in the Jaguar history as the guy that has done an incredible work to save the Powerfold function for further generations - thanks a lot!
The question is whether PA12 is durable enough or we had better go for stainless right from the beginning. Well, I‘ll see how it performs…
And of course you‘ll have a firm place in the Jaguar history as the guy that has done an incredible work to save the Powerfold function for further generations - thanks a lot!
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Ok, I‘ll check accuracy with Protiq and if it‘s better than, let‘s say, 0.5mm I’ll order a prototype. I think that accuracy should be ok, even my cheap Anet A8 3D printer prints (after some tuning) with 0.1 mm.
I‘ve asked them whether the prototype would be printed with stainless steel, they answered that it could also be printed with plastic, but they don‘t believe it would resist a real testing. An alternative would be printing with PA12 which is a hard polyamide. They think that it could even be used as final part, and it would only cost 20 Euro.
I won‘t be able to get the mirror off the car before end of march. Bruno. The file you#ve posted in post #49 is the final one, correct?
Best regards
Martin
I‘ve asked them whether the prototype would be printed with stainless steel, they answered that it could also be printed with plastic, but they don‘t believe it would resist a real testing. An alternative would be printing with PA12 which is a hard polyamide. They think that it could even be used as final part, and it would only cost 20 Euro.
I won‘t be able to get the mirror off the car before end of march. Bruno. The file you#ve posted in post #49 is the final one, correct?
Best regards
Martin
Are you still making progress on developing these? I am searching for someone who can supply me a newly cut set of part 21. Can you help me out?
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I just read this!
So sorry to hear this, I hope the universe makes it right. Thank you so much for trying. Again, so sorry about what happened
So sorry to hear this, I hope the universe makes it right. Thank you so much for trying. Again, so sorry about what happened
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