XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 ) 1997 - 2003

still don't have a clear display...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 05-06-2015, 09:26 PM
dwgates's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 259
Received 43 Likes on 40 Posts
Default still don't have a clear display...

Well I'm weeding thru my to do list on my new 99 XJR and although I think I can get her thru a New York state inspection with a traction control and an ABS warning light I can't really leave these on. In our 540i these faults would just light some fairly easy to get used to idiot lights but the jag is practically screaming at me with this cycle of messages.
I've seen some mention of ABS module issues but was wondering if people had found any issues with wheel speed sensors or other parts of the system. Will one issue cause both messages to scroll across the lower reaches of the speedo? Is there a good point to diagnose whether things like a whel speed sensor are behaving properly?
 
  #2  
Old 05-07-2015, 12:22 PM
CharlzO's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 998
Received 260 Likes on 210 Posts
Default

I haven't looked at mine, but I know the wheel sensor in my 328 does trip those lights also, so it might be worth just trying to clean the sensor prior to replacing, it might at least give an indicator of if that's what's tripping the faults. I'm sure there's a post here somewhere regarding them, but I don't have that issue. My other one though, that sensor is toast but I know that's what is causing my ABS and TCS to flash at me.
 
  #3  
Old 05-07-2015, 02:12 PM
RJ237's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Douglasville Ga.
Posts: 8,702
Received 2,819 Likes on 2,246 Posts
Default

Cleaning sensors #1. Here is a sheet to help trouble shoot. If you check resistance of the sensors and cables from the big multi plug expect 1020-1660 ohms.

http://jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepa...heet%20XK8.pdf
 
The following users liked this post:
dwgates (05-07-2015)
  #4  
Old 05-07-2015, 04:04 PM
rocklandjag's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New York state
Posts: 753
Received 217 Likes on 156 Posts
Default

Yes a bad wheel sensor will cause both those message to display. The short cables connecting the front wheel sensors back to the wiring on the frame are the common culprits. On my car it was the passenger side cable that went bad


The troubleshooting diagram from RJ will help you find the problem
 
The following users liked this post:
dwgates (05-07-2015)
  #5  
Old 05-07-2015, 07:23 PM
RJ237's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Douglasville Ga.
Posts: 8,702
Received 2,819 Likes on 2,246 Posts
Default

I should have warned to disconnect the negative battery cable before unplugging the module. This is important for doing any electrical work as it avoids causing a voltage spike that could result in expensive damage to the modules.
 
The following users liked this post:
dwgates (05-07-2015)
  #6  
Old 05-09-2015, 03:09 PM
dwgates's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 259
Received 43 Likes on 40 Posts
Default resistance readings...

RJ237,
Thanks for the diagram on the ABS wheel speed sensors. I disconnected the ABS module and read the resistances for all 4 today and the all come up 1.14K Ohms. Sounds like I need 4 new sensors but I guess I'm suspicious that they would all be the same. Was there a change to the parts for the 99's? I'm going to clean the sensors next juts to see if one is crudded up and not seeing the cogs on the hub but thought I'd ask about the resistance measurements as these little guys are pretty steep ($145 each was the best price I found).
Doug
 
  #7  
Old 05-09-2015, 07:31 PM
RJ237's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Douglasville Ga.
Posts: 8,702
Received 2,819 Likes on 2,246 Posts
Default

Those readings are good. My error. I should have said 1100-1160 ohm, which is 1.1-1.6 K ohm.
 

Last edited by RJ237; 05-09-2015 at 07:34 PM. Reason: add sentance
  #8  
Old 05-09-2015, 07:46 PM
RJ237's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Douglasville Ga.
Posts: 8,702
Received 2,819 Likes on 2,246 Posts
Default

If you were to have the codes read by a independent shop that can read jag specific codes, the reason for the light would be explained.

If I had to guess, I would say it's the cold solder problem at the pins to the abs pump. This has been covered many times, and can be repaired easily be many online services, or by yourself if you're able to remove and open the abs module and use a soldering iron.
My preferred method is to drill a hole in the case, but you need access to a drill press:

JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bamforp
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
31
08-14-2024 05:36 PM
99xk8guy
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
30
05-28-2024 09:36 PM
Forcedair1
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
37
05-14-2023 03:28 PM
H20boy
XJ ( X351 )
71
07-23-2021 09:39 PM
hoodun
XJS ( X27 )
9
09-14-2015 01:26 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: still don't have a clear display...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:00 PM.