Sunroof.....a fan or not?
#21
I have never been a sunroof kind of guy but on the X308 I very much like using it.
I like fresh air when I drive so I often have the driver window down but it seems, maybe just due to the aerodynamics of the X308, that I get much more wind on my face than I'm used to in other cars when I just roll down the driver window. It's too much.
The sunroof is a great compromise; I get a nice influx of fresh air without having my hair blowing all over the place.
Just my 2 cents.
I like fresh air when I drive so I often have the driver window down but it seems, maybe just due to the aerodynamics of the X308, that I get much more wind on my face than I'm used to in other cars when I just roll down the driver window. It's too much.
The sunroof is a great compromise; I get a nice influx of fresh air without having my hair blowing all over the place.
Just my 2 cents.
#23
Fan of Funroof
Both Jags have sunroofs - big fan.
As others have mentioned, when driving at speed with windows down appears to lessen "wind buffeting" into drivers window.
Also when parked in direct sunlight on hot sunny days, leaving windows closed but sunroof open in the 'tilt' position keeps locked car from getting too warm. (But doesn't invite someone climbing in). I use air, but would rather reduce A/C heat load when first starting car on hot days.
As others have mentioned, when driving at speed with windows down appears to lessen "wind buffeting" into drivers window.
Also when parked in direct sunlight on hot sunny days, leaving windows closed but sunroof open in the 'tilt' position keeps locked car from getting too warm. (But doesn't invite someone climbing in). I use air, but would rather reduce A/C heat load when first starting car on hot days.
#24
According to an article I recently read, a sunroof is one of the most expensive and least used options you can order. If like me you had no choice -- all X-308s in America have sunroofs -- there's the hassle of living with the damn thing.
First, it compromises the structural integrity of the car -- particularly an old-design unibody like the X-308. The car flexes noticeably going over curbs, etc., at least in part because the sunroof opening has reduced its chassis stiffness.
And, it's a high-maintenance item with frequent problems. You can have motor failures, or wind noise problems resulting from the seal being compromised. My long- time Jaguar technician recommended I not use it!
I'd much rather have my 2001 XJR with a solid roof, more headroom, more structural integrity, and fewer things to worry about breaking down. But I can't. So the next best thing is to forget it's there.
First, it compromises the structural integrity of the car -- particularly an old-design unibody like the X-308. The car flexes noticeably going over curbs, etc., at least in part because the sunroof opening has reduced its chassis stiffness.
And, it's a high-maintenance item with frequent problems. You can have motor failures, or wind noise problems resulting from the seal being compromised. My long- time Jaguar technician recommended I not use it!
I'd much rather have my 2001 XJR with a solid roof, more headroom, more structural integrity, and fewer things to worry about breaking down. But I can't. So the next best thing is to forget it's there.
#25
So; horses for courses, I guess . . . perhaps, as reported here, even more favoured in warmer climates to accelerate initial cooling down after entering a locked car . . . and to reduce the wind buffeting when highway driving with windows open.
Clearly, what we can deduce from Jaguar (US) policy of mandatory fitment on their X308s, is that, compared with ROW where this was always an extra cost option, John's fellow countrymen must have found a sunroof enormously popular.
Cheers,
Ken
Clearly, what we can deduce from Jaguar (US) policy of mandatory fitment on their X308s, is that, compared with ROW where this was always an extra cost option, John's fellow countrymen must have found a sunroof enormously popular.
Cheers,
Ken
#26
I don't mind the sunroof in mine, but it isn't used very much. I would like it more if it was slightly tinted glass, like it was on my Acura and Audi's. I really liked having that added bit of light coming in, without having the wind/noise from having it opened. If my car ever needs to have the headliner replaced, I am seriously considering deleting it. it would strengthen up the roof, reduce the weight a little bit, and it would give me more headroom! The latter idea would make me very happy. I'm only 6' and have thinning hair on top, but I still touch the headliner a little. And that is with the seat all the way down and back A couple extra inches of headroom with a custom headliner would be fantastic
#27
#31
I should remove the inner sunroof lining, so you can (kind of) see the mechanism on each side.
It (un)clicks at the front, and is held by some spring clips at the rear.
If you tilt the sunroof, and take a torch, you will see how it works.
It slides through the small pocket between the roof and the tilted sunroof lid.
I presume it is one of the several moving clips which is loose, and catches somewhere, or the small rear lid.
Worst case scenario is to undo the headliner
It (un)clicks at the front, and is held by some spring clips at the rear.
If you tilt the sunroof, and take a torch, you will see how it works.
It slides through the small pocket between the roof and the tilted sunroof lid.
I presume it is one of the several moving clips which is loose, and catches somewhere, or the small rear lid.
Worst case scenario is to undo the headliner
#32
I should remove the inner sunroof lining, so you can (kind of) see the mechanism on each side.
It (un)clicks at the front, and is held by some spring clips at the rear.
If you tilt the sunroof, and take a torch, you will see how it works.
It slides through the small pocket between the roof and the tilted sunroof lid.
I presume it is one of the several moving clips which is loose, and catches somewhere, or the small rear lid.
Worst case scenario is to undo the headliner
It (un)clicks at the front, and is held by some spring clips at the rear.
If you tilt the sunroof, and take a torch, you will see how it works.
It slides through the small pocket between the roof and the tilted sunroof lid.
I presume it is one of the several moving clips which is loose, and catches somewhere, or the small rear lid.
Worst case scenario is to undo the headliner
The "pop" sounds like those 2 arms on each side that fold then extend straight, buckling/friction etc. I'll try lubing them firstly.
#33
#34
King Charles, I have the same pop sound on the driver side of the sunroof when I am sliding it closed. I do not have the sound when I open it. I use it often and it works well otherwise.
I would love to know your diagnosis. I had roof liner replaced five years ago and it has held up nicely. So am not eager to take if down.
All thoughts welcome.
I would love to know your diagnosis. I had roof liner replaced five years ago and it has held up nicely. So am not eager to take if down.
All thoughts welcome.
#36
King Charles, I have the same pop sound on the driver side of the sunroof when I am sliding it closed. I do not have the sound when I open it. I use it often and it works well otherwise.
I would love to know your diagnosis. I had roof liner replaced five years ago and it has held up nicely. So am not eager to take if down.
All thoughts welcome.
I would love to know your diagnosis. I had roof liner replaced five years ago and it has held up nicely. So am not eager to take if down.
All thoughts welcome.
#37
Please share if you find a better fix!
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