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Old 07-22-2013, 08:27 PM
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Hi folks,

I've done a lot of online shopping lately and maybe my experience can help others. I just received a tool set from Tools World on Ebay. It was $200 and 15 shipping and it arrived quickly.
I wasn't sure from the pictures just what was in it, so here's some pictures for you.



 
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Well that is strange. It works from my computer, but not my wifes Mac.
I'll investigate, but I've always linked pictures the same way.
 
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Hmm, they look like this when I go to edit, usually they are photobucket links.
Damn even that doesn't work , but basically they are jaguar forum links, not photobucket ones.

Fixed them, try it again.
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That's a nice set for $200. Previously that had been almost twice as much.
 
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Yes I found some sets at $400-$500. Really, there's not much to them, and $200 is more than I care to spend, but I don't have the tools to make the pin wrenches. The bars and locating pins could be easily fabricated, though.
I'll probably hang on to them and maybe rent to any fellow Canadians, but I can always sell the set later if I felt like it.
However as a life long wrench twister, I don't ever part with tools as a rule.
I'll post again after I've used them on the engine.
 
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Rob, get yourself a degree angle torque wrench. Don't go down the folded paper route.
 
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Rob, get yourself a degree angle torque wrench. Don't go down the folded paper route.
Sorry, you lost me. Folded paper route? As for wrenches, since I already own a conventional tq wrench, $300-400 to buy a new one feels a bit steep for the convenience.
 
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He is referring to a post where I pointed out that a piece of paper could be used to judge the 90 degree pulls required in the torquing procedure in combination with a coat hangar wire as a pointer. There are fancier tools, but 90 degrees is 90 degrees and the larger the radius, the more precise the visual measurement.

The initial part of the procedure requires a torque wrench capable of measuring low values in the under 30 ft/lb range. Bear in mind that most torque wrenches are considered outside of calibration at the lowest 20 percent of their range. Especially the click type. You will need a wrench where 30 ft/lb is in the middle of the range.

The final 90 degree pulls can be done just as easily with a breaker bar since it is angle that is specified and not force.
 
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the cheap version snaps onto a breaker bar about $20 to read angle.

I only mention folding paper as not ideal because of another forum member following this guide and had another head gasket failure 2 weeks after rebuild and gave the car away.

It's a job that requires doing once correctly. MacGuyver it, do it again. Oh, and use the correct headbolts, not Ford - JLR.
 
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The first stage is 20 nm, which is fine for my 3/8 drive tq wrench. The 2nd stage is 35 nm and that is not easy to find a wrench for, because it's between 3/8 and 1/2 typically.
 
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The timing chain tools worked great, I'd recommend them to anyone. The angle reading gauge that snaps on to the breaker bar works very well too. See my post on headgasket repairs for more details.
 
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