Tires for XJR, Continental, Pirelli...
#1
Tires for XJR, Continental, Pirelli...
I have a short list of tires for the XJR :
Pirelli P Zero Nero all season plus
Continental DW
Continental DWS 06
Has anyone experience of these? I have some tramlning right now, so would like to minimise it. I'm a bit worried that the sidewall on the DWs will be too stiff.
Thanks!
Pirelli P Zero Nero all season plus
Continental DW
Continental DWS 06
Has anyone experience of these? I have some tramlning right now, so would like to minimise it. I'm a bit worried that the sidewall on the DWs will be too stiff.
Thanks!
#2
I just put the Continental DWS 06 on mine.
Made the final choice based mostly on TireRack reviews as well as the fact that it is driven more like a 4 door sedan and not a race car.
Prior to the tire change and alignment by the dealer the car road and steered like crap.
Bumps would send it off in another direction. Road noise was annoying.
All I can say now is WOW! What a huge improvement. This is what a Jag should be like..
Made the final choice based mostly on TireRack reviews as well as the fact that it is driven more like a 4 door sedan and not a race car.
Prior to the tire change and alignment by the dealer the car road and steered like crap.
Bumps would send it off in another direction. Road noise was annoying.
All I can say now is WOW! What a huge improvement. This is what a Jag should be like..
#3
Thanks... I was looking at the Tirerack reviews and both the Continental DW and DWS look good. Normally I'd go for Michelin, but with the mileage the Jag does (3K a year) it's really not worth the extra expense.
As I have no need at all for snow and ice performance, I'm tending to go with the DW.
As I have no need at all for snow and ice performance, I'm tending to go with the DW.
#4
I put DWS XL's on one of mine earlier in the year. It's the first time for all season tires on any of my Jaguars. I hit a pot hole and wrecked one of the 17" winter tires -- that set was due for replacement as was my summer set on the original 18" rims. I decided to install 18" DWS's and get the 18" rims refinished. Car is kept at a house where we get some snow. Jaguars with summer tires don't move with any snow.
I say the above so you understand where I'm coming from.
Driving the Jaguar with the DWS's is not much different then with my preferred winter tire when new -- Dunlap winter sport. I think they have more squirm and squish. It's a very soft tire (DWS's) --- I blew one out within a month. Buy them at Tire Rack so you get the free road hazard -- you may need it.
I would never put them on the other XJR. IMO nothing is better then the original Pirelli P-Zero's ... very expensive. I have done a number of Dunlop/ Firestone / Bridgestone summer tires ... all are great when new ... none as good as the Pirelli summers.
Driving the one with summer P Zero's and then the DSW's -- not even close. If I was going to ever try another all-season it would have to be not as soft with a stronger side wall.
I say the above so you understand where I'm coming from.
Driving the Jaguar with the DWS's is not much different then with my preferred winter tire when new -- Dunlap winter sport. I think they have more squirm and squish. It's a very soft tire (DWS's) --- I blew one out within a month. Buy them at Tire Rack so you get the free road hazard -- you may need it.
I would never put them on the other XJR. IMO nothing is better then the original Pirelli P-Zero's ... very expensive. I have done a number of Dunlop/ Firestone / Bridgestone summer tires ... all are great when new ... none as good as the Pirelli summers.
Driving the one with summer P Zero's and then the DSW's -- not even close. If I was going to ever try another all-season it would have to be not as soft with a stronger side wall.
Last edited by yeldogt; 12-23-2015 at 09:59 PM. Reason: Dyslexia
#5
I have about 6,000 miles on the Continental DWS6 - the dry grip is adequate for sane driving, outstanding in rain, no tramlining ever. Wear is not noticeable yet; balance has been good.
Downside - they really flatspot after not being driven for more than a couple days - while they smooth out nicely after 5-10 miles, it is an irritation. The tire noise is noticeable on most pavement surfaces.
As to Pirelli, I have to disagree with the other poster. The OEM set, and the replacements wore incredibly fast, wouldn't hold balance, and wet grip was woefully wanting. As noted, summer tires on an XJR mandate parking the car with even a hint of snow.
I've had Pirelli (twice), Michelin, Bridgestone, Yokohama,and two sets of Contis on my R in the 15 years, 150K miles I've owned it. Driven aggressively, but not irresponsibly. I have yet to be completely satisfied with any of them, but the current generation Continentals have come closest....
Downside - they really flatspot after not being driven for more than a couple days - while they smooth out nicely after 5-10 miles, it is an irritation. The tire noise is noticeable on most pavement surfaces.
As to Pirelli, I have to disagree with the other poster. The OEM set, and the replacements wore incredibly fast, wouldn't hold balance, and wet grip was woefully wanting. As noted, summer tires on an XJR mandate parking the car with even a hint of snow.
I've had Pirelli (twice), Michelin, Bridgestone, Yokohama,and two sets of Contis on my R in the 15 years, 150K miles I've owned it. Driven aggressively, but not irresponsibly. I have yet to be completely satisfied with any of them, but the current generation Continentals have come closest....
#6
I have never has a balance problem with the summer P-zeros .. I have them on three cars. They don't last long... on my Porsche .. maybe 10k ...20k on the Jaguar with rotation. I prefer the P-zeros over the Michelin offerings
The OE tires have reinforced sidewalls - so the pressure can be a bit lower for comfort.
Most people are not going to spend almost $400 per tire ... discussing alternatives is valuable.
The OE tires have reinforced sidewalls - so the pressure can be a bit lower for comfort.
Most people are not going to spend almost $400 per tire ... discussing alternatives is valuable.
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About 5 years ago I put a set of Firestone Firehawks on my Jaguar after trying a set for my Porsche Cayenne. Very similar tread to the tires that come on the new Corvette -- The RE 760's look to have 1/2 of that design.
That was the last set I had on my 18" rims. I used them again on the Cayenne. Summer only -- They were made in Germany -- quiet and great in the rain.
That was the last set I had on my 18" rims. I used them again on the Cayenne. Summer only -- They were made in Germany -- quiet and great in the rain.
Last edited by yeldogt; 12-24-2015 at 04:51 PM.
#10
Can you get Pirelli P7 cinturato A/S plus?
I am running those on my VandenPlas, have about 8,000 miles on them and they look brand new. I had P6's on it before, and they had about 70,000 miles when I replaced them.
I very highly recommend the P7's. Their grip in all weather conditions is superb. The stopping distance with these tires have (probably) saved my life on more than one instance. The grip in wet or snow/ice is just like when they are dry. We recently had an ice storm that I had to drive 30 miles home in, the only time I noticed these tires slip was coming off of a stop sign turning left up a hill. Turned T/C off, and up I went with no problem. And the price is pretty spot on, I believe I paid right around $109 per tire. So they won't break the bank, and being rated to 70 or 75k miles I think is pretty good. I also suggest the road hazard protection on ANY set of tires you buy. For $50 or $60, all it takes is one nail, or screw or anything to puncture the tire, and it could cost that much just to repair!
I am running those on my VandenPlas, have about 8,000 miles on them and they look brand new. I had P6's on it before, and they had about 70,000 miles when I replaced them.
I very highly recommend the P7's. Their grip in all weather conditions is superb. The stopping distance with these tires have (probably) saved my life on more than one instance. The grip in wet or snow/ice is just like when they are dry. We recently had an ice storm that I had to drive 30 miles home in, the only time I noticed these tires slip was coming off of a stop sign turning left up a hill. Turned T/C off, and up I went with no problem. And the price is pretty spot on, I believe I paid right around $109 per tire. So they won't break the bank, and being rated to 70 or 75k miles I think is pretty good. I also suggest the road hazard protection on ANY set of tires you buy. For $50 or $60, all it takes is one nail, or screw or anything to puncture the tire, and it could cost that much just to repair!
#12
I went with Dunlop Signature HP's on my XJR and have been very happy with them. Previously I had Michelin SuperSports which are good in the dry, useless in the cold or even flurries. My bigger issue with the Michelin's was that hitting any sort of pothole inevitably resulted in a bubbled sidewall and likely rim damage.
The Dunlops were a good price at TireRack. They are quiet, have good stick, and seem to be wearing very nicely.
The Dunlops were a good price at TireRack. They are quiet, have good stick, and seem to be wearing very nicely.
#13
I have the second set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS (255/35 ZR20) on my XJR. The first set got over 50,000 miles on them and still had plenty left. They are very quiet, ride smooth, perform well and wear very well. I do rotate them and get an alignment regularly. I would highly recommend these tires.
#14
Well, I went for Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus tires in the end. First impressions are very good - most importantly, the annoying tramlining is gone. The car is very nice to drive on the freeway - no vibration, it's quiet, and directional stability is a big improvement.
The former tires were Michelin Pilot A/S, with 50K miles on them, and starting to crack. They did fine, though.
According to the Tirerack tests, comparing the Pirellis to the Michelins, the new tires have slightly better ride and noise at the expense of a hint of sportiness. I'm fine with that compromise. Most of my driving is cruising down the freeway.
The former tires were Michelin Pilot A/S, with 50K miles on them, and starting to crack. They did fine, though.
According to the Tirerack tests, comparing the Pirellis to the Michelins, the new tires have slightly better ride and noise at the expense of a hint of sportiness. I'm fine with that compromise. Most of my driving is cruising down the freeway.
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