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Should be specified in the vehicle maintenance booklet.
Brake fluid in North America is specified as DOT #. Where # can be 3,4,5. Ignore the word "Super" as that is a marketing term. The DOT # is determined by conformance with very strict tests mandated by the Department of Transportation.
Also stay within the #, as one of the 3,4,5 is a silicone based formulation which is *not* compatible with the other formulations. Can't remember which.
If you are still uncomfortable, you can pick up the Jaguar branded fluid and pay the premium.
Brake fluid in North America is specified as DOT #. Where # can be 3,4,5. Ignore the word "Super" as that is a marketing term. The DOT # is determined by conformance with very strict tests mandated by the Department of Transportation.
Also stay within the #, as one of the 3,4,5 is a silicone based formulation which is *not* compatible with the other formulations. Can't remember which.
If you are still uncomfortable, you can pick up the Jaguar branded fluid and pay the premium.
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I believe Graham is correct that Jaguar specifies DOT4 which is available at any car parts store. Brand is irrelevant.
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Always remember that the classifications are minimum standards and not all the formulations are the same.
Many new car dealers use BG systems and the fluids that they provide -- I flushed mine with the Jaguar fluid -- because I had it. For all my other cars that call for 4 I use the 4e from Mercedes: I know what I am getting and the product is only a couple of dollars over what Pep Boys sells. Always use a fresh bottle.
Many new car dealers use BG systems and the fluids that they provide -- I flushed mine with the Jaguar fluid -- because I had it. For all my other cars that call for 4 I use the 4e from Mercedes: I know what I am getting and the product is only a couple of dollars over what Pep Boys sells. Always use a fresh bottle.
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Vincent...any good quality polyglycol brake frluid rated at DOT-4 will suffice.
I personally use Castrol Super DOT-4 but in your area you buy a local quality brand.
Trick is to flush through the entire system every two years....as brake fluid is hygroscopic.
It's cheap insurrance and the Company states every two years in the servic manual....even more important in high humidity areas.
Whatever you do.....DO NOT mix DOT-5 (silicon) brake fluids with other types!
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I don't see why not. It's labeled and marketed as "exceeds Dot 3 and Dot 4 specifications".
LMA has always been a traditional favorite for me as well but nobody in my area keeps it on the shelf. I always have to ask that some been ordered in. No big deal, though.
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I have had very good luck with ATE Super Blue fluid. It's a "super" DOT 4 fluid like the Castrol Super DOT 4, which does have a somewhat higher boiling point than regular DOT 4 (536 F dry BP for the "super" fluids, 446 F dry BP for regular DOT 4). It is not a silicone base and is compatible with all non-DOT5 fluids. Basically it's the highest boiling point you can get without having to do a flush/re-build to run DOT 5. You can get it at TireRack.
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I'm trying to find a good fluid, in stock locally, at a sensible price. It's hard to know which brake fluids are acceptable, and which are superior.
I just drove across town to buy some Pentosin Super DOT 4. (Too bad it wasn't in stock like the guy said it was.) I'm willing to trust Pentosin which is a German company serious about providing quality aftermarket fluids for Jaguars. They make two fluids suitable for Jaguars. For Jaguars they make "Pentosin Super DOT 4". More available is their updated fluid labelled "Pentosin DOT 4 LV (Low Viscosity)" which is required for BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc (not Jaguar) beginning around 2002. Pentosin says it's OK to put Low Viscosity in a system (like Jaguar) designed for normal viscosity. I'd use whichever of those I can get. I'd also use Castrol Response Super DOT 4, if I could find it somewhere.
I'm in westside Los Angeles area, land of luxury cars, and I can't find high-end fluids readily available (probably due to a lack of DIYers). O'Reillys/ Kragen has a DOT 4 on the shelf for $7.50/qt which I'm willing to use in a pinch. O'Reillys/ Kragen sells Pentosin products, but they don't keep much in stock, and only in the back room. I know to avoid DOT 5 silicone fluid. I heard that fresh DOT 3 is actually fine for a DOT 4 system in the short term, only it tends to absorb and get contaminated by water faster, and I'm not forced to gamble with DOT 3.
I just drove across town to buy some Pentosin Super DOT 4. (Too bad it wasn't in stock like the guy said it was.) I'm willing to trust Pentosin which is a German company serious about providing quality aftermarket fluids for Jaguars. They make two fluids suitable for Jaguars. For Jaguars they make "Pentosin Super DOT 4". More available is their updated fluid labelled "Pentosin DOT 4 LV (Low Viscosity)" which is required for BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc (not Jaguar) beginning around 2002. Pentosin says it's OK to put Low Viscosity in a system (like Jaguar) designed for normal viscosity. I'd use whichever of those I can get. I'd also use Castrol Response Super DOT 4, if I could find it somewhere.
I'm in westside Los Angeles area, land of luxury cars, and I can't find high-end fluids readily available (probably due to a lack of DIYers). O'Reillys/ Kragen has a DOT 4 on the shelf for $7.50/qt which I'm willing to use in a pinch. O'Reillys/ Kragen sells Pentosin products, but they don't keep much in stock, and only in the back room. I know to avoid DOT 5 silicone fluid. I heard that fresh DOT 3 is actually fine for a DOT 4 system in the short term, only it tends to absorb and get contaminated by water faster, and I'm not forced to gamble with DOT 3.
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Never heard that before. DOT3 has a lower boiling point than DOT4 which is a bigger concern. Without opening, actually reopening a can or worms, there's no real need for boutique brand brake fluids. As defined above, there's no 'super DOT4' spec. Any DOT4 fluid is good enough in my book.
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I'm trying to find a good fluid, in stock locally, at a sensible price. It's hard to know which brake fluids are acceptable, and which are superior.
I just drove across town to buy some Pentosin Super DOT 4. (Too bad it wasn't in stock like the guy said it was.) I'm willing to trust Pentosin which is a German company serious about providing quality aftermarket fluids for Jaguars. They make two fluids suitable for Jaguars. For Jaguars they make "Pentosin Super DOT 4". More available is their updated fluid labelled "Pentosin DOT 4 LV (Low Viscosity)" which is required for BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc (not Jaguar) beginning around 2002. Pentosin says it's OK to put Low Viscosity in a system (like Jaguar) designed for normal viscosity. I'd use whichever of those I can get. I'd also use Castrol Response Super DOT 4, if I could find it somewhere.
I'm in westside Los Angeles area, land of luxury cars, and I can't find high-end fluids readily available (probably due to a lack of DIYers). O'Reillys/ Kragen has a DOT 4 on the shelf for $7.50/qt which I'm willing to use in a pinch. O'Reillys/ Kragen sells Pentosin products, but they don't keep much in stock, and only in the back room. I know to avoid DOT 5 silicone fluid. I heard that fresh DOT 3 is actually fine for a DOT 4 system in the short term, only it tends to absorb and get contaminated by water faster, and I'm not forced to gamble with DOT 3.
I just drove across town to buy some Pentosin Super DOT 4. (Too bad it wasn't in stock like the guy said it was.) I'm willing to trust Pentosin which is a German company serious about providing quality aftermarket fluids for Jaguars. They make two fluids suitable for Jaguars. For Jaguars they make "Pentosin Super DOT 4". More available is their updated fluid labelled "Pentosin DOT 4 LV (Low Viscosity)" which is required for BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc (not Jaguar) beginning around 2002. Pentosin says it's OK to put Low Viscosity in a system (like Jaguar) designed for normal viscosity. I'd use whichever of those I can get. I'd also use Castrol Response Super DOT 4, if I could find it somewhere.
I'm in westside Los Angeles area, land of luxury cars, and I can't find high-end fluids readily available (probably due to a lack of DIYers). O'Reillys/ Kragen has a DOT 4 on the shelf for $7.50/qt which I'm willing to use in a pinch. O'Reillys/ Kragen sells Pentosin products, but they don't keep much in stock, and only in the back room. I know to avoid DOT 5 silicone fluid. I heard that fresh DOT 3 is actually fine for a DOT 4 system in the short term, only it tends to absorb and get contaminated by water faster, and I'm not forced to gamble with DOT 3.
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