What would you have change if you were in the room designing the X308
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Some things can be cured such as tensioners ( did 'em), thermostat housing and the temp gauge (on my short to-do list). Also will consider catalytic conv's for better breathing. Headliner material feels cheap - would've liked to see alcantara in XJR.
Things that should've been offered from the factory:
LSD - at least as an option on the XJR
Full instrumentation - again, to emphasize the performance upgrade of the R
My Alfas have both and they are 20 years older.
Properly engineered exhaust
Other things:
HID lighting OEM
Heater hoses running through engine valley: Porsche Cayenne has similar design flaw except porsche OEM were plastic. The cheapest repair I could find was $1200. However Porsche realized their mistake and offered a metal tube retrofit. Is there a similar cure for X308?
Ditto on other miscellaneous things such as cheesy Nav, plastic garbage under the hood, in-tank fuel filter, etc.
Things that should've been offered from the factory:
LSD - at least as an option on the XJR
Full instrumentation - again, to emphasize the performance upgrade of the R
My Alfas have both and they are 20 years older.
Properly engineered exhaust
Other things:
HID lighting OEM
Heater hoses running through engine valley: Porsche Cayenne has similar design flaw except porsche OEM were plastic. The cheapest repair I could find was $1200. However Porsche realized their mistake and offered a metal tube retrofit. Is there a similar cure for X308?
Ditto on other miscellaneous things such as cheesy Nav, plastic garbage under the hood, in-tank fuel filter, etc.
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Exactly my thoughts! I grew up in Europe, and we don't eat, drink, shave, apply makeup, read papers, and everything else Americans do in their cars. When we are behind the wheel, we,.....DRIVE! I firmly believe that most Americans would be involved in a collision within first 24 hours of driving in Italy (and I will not even mention Teheran or Istambul!!).
I'm so happy that I don't have the cupholder in my Jag anymore.
I'm so happy that I don't have the cupholder in my Jag anymore.
Plus people try to do too much when driving or doing everything but driving and cause lots of accidents.
Yeah I know driving in Italy, man, you have to be on your top game there. I dont think most people I see on the road here would survive there without killing someone. Hell, they kill enough people here (ELP again) with the slower speed limits like doing crazy tactics that make you wonder where did they get their lisence from like stopping i nthe middle of the freeway instead pulling over, running red lights while staring at green lights, driving slow as molassas, while taking up two lanes, last minute slam on the brakes right hand turn with no blinker, the El Paso famous, burn rubber to pull in from of you fro ma side road and then slow down to 20 mph (no exageration.) and of course the other famous El Paso hit parked cars and either drive off because of lack of insurance or stay around and have no insurance (50% non-insured motorists on road statistic and that is not including the Mexico plated vehicles which are not required to have insurance when crossing the border. They can hit you car, drive off, and leaving you SOL).
I think they should make the DL process as extensive as they make it in Germany here. There are too many people here that need a little retraining. I'm not talking about stuff that is little either, I mean stuff that any driver even a teenager know is not a bright idea. I think this is the only city where I been that the average teenager drives better than the adults.
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You and I both... Was in the Naples Florida showroom and the XKR looks like a 97 Toyota Supra and the XJ looks like the mating of an Inifinit and MB E class. XJ how ever is getting a 4cyl Turbo in 2013 and a option for a 6cyl SC. The 308 was IMO the pinnacle of English Jaguar. I would have designed a better cold air intake. I have a 3.5" Long swept 90 coming out of the TB mandrel bent ending in a insulated metal box behind right headlight and it is IMO a huge difference. Removing the flat 90 out of the TB was a winner
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You and I both... Was in the Naples Florida showroom and the XKR looks like a 97 Toyota Supra and the XJ looks like the mating of an Inifinit and MB E class. XJ how ever is getting a 4cyl Turbo in 2013 and a option for a 6cyl SC. The 308 was IMO the pinnacle of English Jaguar. I would have designed a better cold air intake. I have a 3.5" Long swept 90 coming out of the TB mandrel bent ending in a insulated metal box behind right headlight and it is IMO a huge difference. Removing the flat 90 out of the TB was a winner
I had the XJS many moons back, and I recently decided that it was time for another Cat. I could've gone out and bought a new one, or ANY year used one I wanted. So I looked, and I looked, and I decided (as many of you said), that the "last real Jaguar" (that still looks, and feels like one) is x308. And anything newer than this, does not give me a feel of driving one.
And after that decision, it was just matter of deciding between XJ8, XJ8L, VDP, or XJR. And, I failed in my research!! After I bought my VDP (decided that the long wheelbase is a must for me, and the real leather trumps the vinyl, not to mention "grey poupon" little tables in the back!).
Love my cat, don't get me wrong, but.......after I fell in love and took her home, I found out that there are supercharged VDPs!! (I LOVE the performance, stance, and the agressivness of the XJR, but I LOVE the room, and the plush interior of the VDP!). Well, it's too late now. We have a good relationship now (my cat and me), and I will not get rid of her just because I found something more exciting.
So the devious plan was hatched! My wife drives S430. She likes my cat,......convince her to dump the Benz, and we get the supercharged VDP!
Sounds like a good plan to me.
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I had the XJS many moons back, and I recently decided that it was time for another Cat. I could've gone out and bought a new one, or ANY year used one I wanted. So I looked, and I looked, and I decided (as many of you said), that the "last real Jaguar" (that still looks, and feels like one) is x308. And anything newer than this, does not give me a feel of driving one.
And after that decision, it was just matter of deciding between XJ8, XJ8L, VDP, or XJR. And, I failed in my research!! After I bought my VDP (decided that the long wheelbase is a must for me, and the real leather trumps the vinyl, not to mention "grey poupon" little tables in the back!).
Love my cat, don't get me wrong, but.......after I fell in love and took her home, I found out that there are supercharged VDPs!! (I LOVE the performance, stance, and the agressivness of the XJR, but I LOVE the room, and the plush interior of the VDP!). Well, it's too late now. We have a good relationship now (my cat and me), and I will not get rid of her just because I found something more exciting.
So the devious plan was hatched! My wife drives S430. She likes my cat,......convince her to dump the Benz, and we get the supercharged VDP!
Sounds like a good plan to me.![Icon Steer](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_steer.gif)
And after that decision, it was just matter of deciding between XJ8, XJ8L, VDP, or XJR. And, I failed in my research!! After I bought my VDP (decided that the long wheelbase is a must for me, and the real leather trumps the vinyl, not to mention "grey poupon" little tables in the back!).
Love my cat, don't get me wrong, but.......after I fell in love and took her home, I found out that there are supercharged VDPs!! (I LOVE the performance, stance, and the agressivness of the XJR, but I LOVE the room, and the plush interior of the VDP!). Well, it's too late now. We have a good relationship now (my cat and me), and I will not get rid of her just because I found something more exciting.
So the devious plan was hatched! My wife drives S430. She likes my cat,......convince her to dump the Benz, and we get the supercharged VDP!
Sounds like a good plan to me.
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