what year XJ8´s to get without engine problems?
#22
Your VIN falls within the range of VINS listed by Jaguar as being troublesome; my VIN is 42877 and falls outside that range. If I've figured this all out, and I'm certainly not sure I have completely, I probably have the 2nd generation plastic tensioners since the build date on my car is pre-August 2001. Jaguar obviously thought these were better, but there seems to be some question as to how much better. I'll put the metal ones in as soon as possible. Seems like lifting the exhaust cam to slip the new ones in is the best way to do it.
#23
"The first steel-lined AJ-V8 came off the production line In the year 2000 on August 18th at 10.43am hence the engine number will read:
00 08 18 1043 or more precisely:
0008181043"
(All quoted from the link below.
Found that info here-->> http://www.gusglikas.com/AutoRepairNikasil.htm
My car was made that month! LOL, have to check my engine number to be sure. (Tensioners were done as scheduled on it)
The say the engine number can be found here:
"Engine number on V8 is under the black plastic cover, stamped on the top of the block to the right hand side of the front of the engine, near the lifting bracket."
Quoted from the same source as above.
Tom
2001 Athricite VDP
00 08 18 1043 or more precisely:
0008181043"
(All quoted from the link below.
Found that info here-->> http://www.gusglikas.com/AutoRepairNikasil.htm
My car was made that month! LOL, have to check my engine number to be sure. (Tensioners were done as scheduled on it)
The say the engine number can be found here:
"Engine number on V8 is under the black plastic cover, stamped on the top of the block to the right hand side of the front of the engine, near the lifting bracket."
Quoted from the same source as above.
Tom
2001 Athricite VDP
Last edited by tjb909; 06-01-2010 at 01:44 PM.
#24
I would not let Nikasil stop me from buying a suitable car.
Virtually all of the Nikasil engines have failed by now and the symptoms are easily checked (excessive blowback).
Nikasil, when intact, is technically superior to steel liners and will wear much less!
The secondary tensioners are replaced easily and probably should be done on any high mileage engine, steel or plastic tensioner bodied.
Virtually all of the Nikasil engines have failed by now and the symptoms are easily checked (excessive blowback).
Nikasil, when intact, is technically superior to steel liners and will wear much less!
The secondary tensioners are replaced easily and probably should be done on any high mileage engine, steel or plastic tensioner bodied.
#25
Tensioners & Nikasil
My 2001 VDP has a Nikasil engine. I found the engine number under the left hand exhaust manifold - looking through the left front wheel well with wheel off or turned all the way right. It starts with LL. I never could find it on top of the engine. I also had plastic bodied tensioners, which I replaced with the metal bodied ones. I only did the secondary tensioners. I also replaced the water pump with the metal vaned one, and the thermostat while in there. I think I'm good to go now for a long time. I don't mind the Nikasil, in fact, I've heard some guys say the steel liners were a compromise over the original Nikasil. But the tensioners and water pump are potential time bombs in an otherwise beautifully designed engine.
#26
Have a read of this, by an ex-Jaguar development engineer: -
http://www.jagweb.com/aj6eng/v8_performance.php
http://www.jagweb.com/aj6eng/v8_performance.php
#27
I would not let Nikasil stop me from buying a suitable car.
Virtually all of the Nikasil engines have failed by now and the symptoms are easily checked (excessive blowback).
Nikasil, when intact, is technically superior to steel liners and will wear much less!
The secondary tensioners are replaced easily and probably should be done on any high mileage engine, steel or plastic tensioner bodied.
Virtually all of the Nikasil engines have failed by now and the symptoms are easily checked (excessive blowback).
Nikasil, when intact, is technically superior to steel liners and will wear much less!
The secondary tensioners are replaced easily and probably should be done on any high mileage engine, steel or plastic tensioner bodied.
#28
engine problems 2000 xjr
Hi everyone. i am new to this site i just bought a 2000 xjr that was build in 07/2000 i bought the car on 9/12/10 for 7k very nice car but i heard that they have problems on certain engines my last six numbers of the vin is F20526 does that vin fall in to the category of bad engines can any one answer my questions? and today i just had the engine cool light on it didn’t seem that i was low on anti-freeze but i still added some and its still on any suggestions is this something serious? i also checked the dip stick for oil it was a little low so i added one quart but when i opened the engine cap i could see the steam coming out a little and i live in Florida it was around 88 degrees today so its not that it was cold is it normal?
#29
2000 xjr engine problems, coolant low
Hi everyone. i am new to this site i just bought a 2000 xjr that was build in 07/2000 i bought the car on 9/12/10 for 7k very nice car but i heard that they have problems on certain engines my last six numbers of the vin is F20526 does that vin fall in to the category of bad engines can any one answer my questions? and today i just had the engine cool light on it didn’t seem that i was low on anti-freeze but i still added some and its still on any suggestions is this something serious? i also checked the dip stick for oil it was a little low so i added one quart but when i opened the engine cap i could see the steam coming out a little and i live in Florida it was around 88 degrees today so its not that it was cold is it normal?
#31
Nikasil motors were installed in '98 and '99 models. Nikasil if not abused, (overheating, high sulfur fuels used) is actually superior with regards to wear characteristics than steel liners. Nikasil is an extremely hard and wear resistant coating if properly taken care of and I believe has a bad rep not mostly justified.
Early generation tensioners and chain guides were an issue. I am not sure exactly when they switched to the lastest versions from the factory and I believe upgraded parts were made available after the last X308's finished production.
It really boils down to how well maintained the car was. Tensioners wear out and even the latest version installed from the factory are probably good for about 120K miles.
The main concern is the transmission. It the same 5 speed ZF tranny used in Bimmers and MBZ also. The are also good for about 120K miles before they need a rebuild.
I know one customer with a '99 XJ8 with 245,000 miles. Nikasil motor, compression is still strong across all cylinders and no more than 4% blow-by in the weakest bore.
Early generation tensioners and chain guides were an issue. I am not sure exactly when they switched to the lastest versions from the factory and I believe upgraded parts were made available after the last X308's finished production.
It really boils down to how well maintained the car was. Tensioners wear out and even the latest version installed from the factory are probably good for about 120K miles.
The main concern is the transmission. It the same 5 speed ZF tranny used in Bimmers and MBZ also. The are also good for about 120K miles before they need a rebuild.
I know one customer with a '99 XJ8 with 245,000 miles. Nikasil motor, compression is still strong across all cylinders and no more than 4% blow-by in the weakest bore.
Would you say don't buy a Jag withover 120K on it?
#32
#33
Few weeks ago I rolled the dice. Found a 98 VDP with 80K on the clock, in great condition. Will need some paint (fading from AZ sun where it came from), and driver's seat redye.
It has Nicasil engine, and I'm still not sure on the tensioners (I am a third owner, and the previous one could not answer the question). Anyway,.....the thing PURRRS! No rattle on the startup, no blowby,....nothing. I WILL open it up, and change the secondary tensioners ASAP if they are the 1st gen.
I have a lifetime experience in working on all kinds of engines, and it seems to me that not all tensioners were bad (bad batches maybe?), or.....the end result (tensioner failure) depends on the oil used, frequency of the oil changes, and/or engine temperature. I know a guy who has over 150K on the 98 XJ8 and it's all original. Plastic tensioners, and Nicasil, even the plastic thermostat housing.
So,.....for the piece of mind, everyone with the plastic stuff should replace it ASAP, but that did not stop me from buying a good car at the good price. My "problem" is,.....I just don't like the body style of the 2004+ XJ8, and when I went shopping for one, nothing in the 2002-2003 years was available with low miles. I don't know why, but 1997-2003 body style is the one I like, and as these cars got progressively smaller, I just don't like them. IMO, the 97-03 style is the last of the "old school" Jaguar design, and that's what I wanted. Now,.....what I would REALLY like, is VDP (long wheelbase, plus the interior) with XJR drivetrain!
I will gradually restore this one (custom paint, interior, engine upgrades, brakes upgrade, etc.), and keep it for many years.
It has Nicasil engine, and I'm still not sure on the tensioners (I am a third owner, and the previous one could not answer the question). Anyway,.....the thing PURRRS! No rattle on the startup, no blowby,....nothing. I WILL open it up, and change the secondary tensioners ASAP if they are the 1st gen.
I have a lifetime experience in working on all kinds of engines, and it seems to me that not all tensioners were bad (bad batches maybe?), or.....the end result (tensioner failure) depends on the oil used, frequency of the oil changes, and/or engine temperature. I know a guy who has over 150K on the 98 XJ8 and it's all original. Plastic tensioners, and Nicasil, even the plastic thermostat housing.
So,.....for the piece of mind, everyone with the plastic stuff should replace it ASAP, but that did not stop me from buying a good car at the good price. My "problem" is,.....I just don't like the body style of the 2004+ XJ8, and when I went shopping for one, nothing in the 2002-2003 years was available with low miles. I don't know why, but 1997-2003 body style is the one I like, and as these cars got progressively smaller, I just don't like them. IMO, the 97-03 style is the last of the "old school" Jaguar design, and that's what I wanted. Now,.....what I would REALLY like, is VDP (long wheelbase, plus the interior) with XJR drivetrain!
I will gradually restore this one (custom paint, interior, engine upgrades, brakes upgrade, etc.), and keep it for many years.
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